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where is switzerland? on the chart, this often gets touted as the counterpoint

While the data might be cherry picked, one thing that can't be displayed here is motivation. In Canada, a decent number of people have guns, but you can't carry firearms with you, you have to take highly specific routes while transporting any restricted hand guns. The role of guns is sport shooting and hunting and it's highly regulated for those.

In the USA, guns are intended to be used to kill other civilians. Owning a gun for self-defense purposes is buying with the intention that you may one day use it to kill another human. Not an enemy combatant in war, but a fellow citizen with a gun.

It's only a feeling, but I feel like that might be the biggest distinction between the USA and other (omitted) high-gun-per-capita countries. Guns in the USA aren't for mitary drafting or protection against a national invasion.

There's also the matter of training and licensing. A buddy in the USA was staunchly opposed to gun licensing. When I said that in Canada, it just helps ensure that people know how to maintain their gun and use it safely, he said, "Well the people who don't take the time to learn how to maintain it and use it safely just shouldn't get it in the first place", which I'm sure is a popular enough sentiment, but it's also the argument for licensing. The zero barrier for entry approach is also a problem.

I'd love to see more nuanced stats than this 4-panel comic is presenting.

Finally, proof that homicides cause gun ownership

notice how in the graph on wikipedia, excluding USA, the correlation is really not that strong.

dont get me wrong, i agree with the general sentiment, but bad data weakens even the best of cases.

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Hold up. The US has over 100 guns per 100 people? 😳 So on average, everyone owns at least one gun? Tell me I'm reading that wrong!

It should be noted that this chart compares gun homicides to gun ownership, which... of course those will correlate

If we plotted kangaroo injuries vs kangaroos per capita, we'd see a similar outlier in Australia

It would be more useful to see gun ownership compared to total homicides, to see if an overabundance of guns correlates with more murders. Even then, though, a correlation between the two might not be casual in that direction. It may instead be that in areas with a high homicide rate, people are more likely to own a firearm for defense.

What you would need to prove is that places with high gun ownership have significantly higher homicide rates, but places with high homicide rates don't have significantly higher rates of gun ownership

Any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated

I'm not a republican, but I don't think anyone is saying gun crime doesn't happen.

It's easy to say that banning guns = no more gun violence. But the devil is in the details. Given the U.S.A's history with guns, banning them will have consequences. Not can, will.

Let's not forget that a gun ban will only affect law abiding citizens.

The US seems to be a huge outlier on both axes. You would have to exclude it to make any sense of the data.

Arguing that the populace shouldn't have guns, and pointing to the usa as an example, is arguing that our fascist government should have a monopoly on violence. Every successful "gun control" law has been put in place in response to persecuted minorities and activist groups having guns. For a famous example, see the Black Panthers.

Peaceful protests are impotent unless backed by a genuine threat of violence. See how little the recent "No Kings" protests have accomplished vs the death of that one health insurance ceo.

Now, I am in favor of fewer guns, but the order of operations is important. Let's start with disarming the police and abolishing ice. So long as my friends/family/neighbors/whatevers are being abducted by masked thugs in broad daylight, it is my right and my duty to defend with lethal force.

Looks to me like the United States of Epstein is Firearms Georg. The correlation is pretty weak for the rest of the data.

Though you shouldn't listen to me, I'm not a stasts- statitcis- uh, data ninja

Hey, look, it's divisive rhetoric!

Crimes and violence are caused by unjustified heirarchies, in particular, the ruling class ruling over the working class.

You know what would reduce school shootings? Publicly funded mental health services for young people.

This kind of post is aimed at dividing the working class into two groups, pro-gun, and anti-gun. Refuse to give in to their messaging. Solidarity across the WHOLE working class!

The biggest things are the types of firearm and the "reason" (ie. attitude)

I live somewhere where there are loads of firearms. I come from a country with a firearm-to-person ratio that surprises people

Because firearm crime is vanishingly low

Firearms are tools, not toys. Very few people here think a rifle makes their dick bigger.

Sidearms aren't a thing. If you can get a licence to own one, it's because you're a recognised security professional, a sports handgun shooter (so your firearms are under lock and key at a range accredited appropriately) and you can't get ammunition without the proper protections in place

NO CIVILIAN NEEDS TO OWN A SIDEARM

Obviously, in 'Murica, the genie is out of the bottle, but their problems with violent crime run deeper

In my country, a criminal with a knife is subdued with a milk-crate, because life isn't thrown away so quickly He was stopped without further loss of life

I actually dislike firearms, but I acknowledge that they have a role in civilised society

America isn't civilised, and it's a backwards shithole that thinks action movies are documentaries

It's full of people who want to hurt people, and they're obsessed with making sure that they are able to

It's pathetic

Children getting shot up at school is just a way of life we all have to accept according to American leadership.

Amazing how this topic/narrative surges whenever the chances of leftists and minorities arming themselves and/or actually doing something peak.

So what happened this time? Recent Performative Resistance/"No-Kings Protest" turn-out lower than expected? Higher? Someone show up armed and people talked to them instead of assuming they were a counter-protestor? Police and other local morons particularly brutal in a way the press couldn't gloss?

Firearm sales have TRIPLED since 2000.

Fun fact: Gun sales (and production) don't dip under Democratic leadership. USA is world's number one arms dealer (all weapons)

Every state is involved in the firearms industry, even Hawaii.

https://www.nssf.org/government-relations/impact/

More guns than people is a funny stat.

Oh but the 2nd amendment's to protect from invaders foreign and domestic, to protect people and freedom...

USA, how's that working out for you?

Highest prison population, highest rates of asset forfeiture (legalised theft by cops), highest health costs with worst health outcomes, highest rates of poisonous pollutants in "food" supply, countless ways the "democracy" is a sham with lobbying (legalised bribery) and voter suppression just the tip of the iceberg, education system and media dumbing down the population into totalitarianism, groupthink manufactured to keep people divided and conquered, false flag operations to manufacture emergencies to give government the right to rescind your rights, the orwellian named SAVE, GENIUS, CLARITY statutes and more to do the opposite continuing to worsen the situation... on and on and on it goes...

Keep repeating "we are free", harder! XD

Those guns will start to protect you soon. Just like the wealth will begin to trickle down... annnny minute now...