I love my original Framework running Fedora, but in order to compete with MacOS, Windows and Linux need to figure out standby battery usage without hard shutting down after each use. Otherwise, the size of the battery is not pointless, but pretty close.
this post was submitted on 21 Apr 2026
577 points (97.7% liked)
Linux
64774 readers
1136 users here now
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).
Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.
Rules
- Posts must be relevant to operating systems running the Linux kernel. GNU/Linux or otherwise.
- No misinformation
- No NSFW content
- No hate speech, bigotry, etc
Related Communities
Community icon by Alpár-Etele Méder, licensed under CC BY 3.0
founded 6 years ago
MODERATORS
I recently installed Mint on my laptop and I have this problem, too. Windows 11 sucks, but I could just close the laptop and not worry about it and still have battery for a long time.
Now I assume it'll last with the lid closed maybe a day or two at max, and even then I'm plugging it in the moment I open it back up.
This, so much this. I also run Fedora.
I can't just close the lid and put it in my bag without worrying.
Honestly, most times of I'm not actively working on something, I just shut it off completely before packing it away. It starts plenty fast, and at least I know I'll actually have battery when I need it. Instead of finding it dead or at 10%. So annoying.
Tbh even if they figure it out (and they should, not everyone is me) I probably won't use it often, I like the extra layer of security having to type my LUKS pass to unlock the FDE then my User pass, just in case. Plus as you noted it starts plenty fast already at under 30sec, it's not a 5min boot like windows on my old laptop.
Same, also on Fedora. I deal with it by using hibernate (which is sweet until a kernel update borks it)
I looked into it, but I didn't want to mess with rpmostree anymore than I need to, since I'm on bluefin. I'm really digging the forced stability.
I recently learned that the option to hibernate goes away when Fedora is booted with SecureBoot. It was surprising to me, and might be good to know for you, that's why I'm mentioning it.
This is quite an impressive launch from Framework. Even with the high RAM and storage prices, it is still cost competitive with an equivalent MacBook Pro (my yardstick for mid-high end laptops), but with a fully open design you can run Linux on without any virtual machines, and with (claimed) nearly equal battery life. I am somewhat disappointed though by that display, in my opinion touch is not as worthwhile compared to a display with local dimming (OLED/Mini LED).
You shouldn't buy based on promises or assumptions. But if I had to guess, I'd say an OLED panel may come eventually. And it would likely be backwards compatible.
Original FW13 owners already had the original glossy panel, then the new matte higher resolution panel came out as a drop in replacement, and now this new touch panel is also a drop in replacement.
I already have a FW13 with the matte high res panel, I won't be going to touch panel. But maybe if they do an OLED I'd jump to it.
My plan is not to upgrade unless I need to. If something breaks, it'll get the newest version of whatever that thing is.
Unless I feel hampered by my 7040u in 3 or 4 years, then maybe I'll do something about it? But I really don't need that much horsepower in my life.
I'm just glad I have the option. And happy to support a company giving me the option.
From my experience trying to find retrofit displays for my ThinkPad P14s Gen 5, there's two routes Framework probably could go down for this.
An OLED would be the best display option, and is somewhat more available. However, it requires extra voltage circuitry in order to work compared to an LCD, so there would probably need to be a mainboard revision to accommodate this, making it quite unlikely as it locks out users of existing systems (Unless they have some sort of adapter? No idea how that would work but maybe something could be done).
Alternatively, I have seen that there are Mini LED displays with the same connector (40 pin 4 lane eDP) and voltages that can work as a direct replacement, although without the per pixel backlight advantage of OLED. However there appears to be very few panels available in this configuration, probably raising the price a bit, especially since I can't find any in the 13.5 inch size of the Framework 13. Considering this Pro version has a custom manufactured display though, they could probably source one eventually and sell it as an upgrade.
good battery life is nice, but does Linux's bibernation or suspend work reliably on this? Asking because coming from Lenovo, the power performance is not a problem but it is the power management. Unless I am on a Window version specifically for that Lenovo laptop or I am on a Mac, there is always that 10% chance the laptop will fail to suspend properly.
In my experience Power Management is broken on Windows and Linux the same way. Some laptops do work better then others, but none of both Systems works fully reliable. My work HP Elitebook 845 G8 also has the problem of waking itself up in my backpack and boiling to Death (empty Battery). And it is running on Windows.
Don't know if Apple with their MacBooks have similar problems.
i think the good alternative is to get a really fast drive and hibernate everytime you close the lid. Sure it's slower to resume but with ssd that shouldnt be an issue. Or if Framework has 2 drives we can suspend the image to that 2nd drive then use the main drive to boot up off of it.
I was loaned a Macbook at my previous workplace. Didnt really use it much because my work apps do not work on Mac. So it sat on the shelves until the day I left the company (too much toxicity). I only used it once or twice when doing presentations. Anyway, that thing suspened pretty much 10/10. The power save is better too: i closed the lid on Sunday night and next Sunday, when open up the lid the battery was at 95%.
up until a few months ago, i've been only been using linux-first companies because of battery life and power management and it spoiled me because i came to expect a windows/mac-level of performance in this realm.
i tried going back to a windows-first laptop most recently and the power management has definately gotten better under linux than it was the last time i tried in 2013, but it still leaves something to be desired like your lenovo laptop does and it makes me wish that framework were more candid about linux user experiences to justify the additional costs that they're expecting from us.
this looks cool, but i have a note for those willing to stop using their working but more proprietary devices to get this instead.
while this is more repairable and upgradable than most currently popular laptops, you shouldn't upgrade if you don't need to. if your device works, and you can live with the missed performance and other features, don't condemn it to the e-waste bin, where it will most likely not be efficiently disposed of nor recycled, and add to the at least 62 million tonnes of yearly e-waste that is also processed by socially vulnerable people (including children) in economically disadvantaged nations.
if you don't have to waste it, don't. reduce.
Reduce
Reuse
Recycle
And in that order
Reduce...
Reuse...
ecyc e...
For the cultured
Ofc if you want to throw away your old laptop you should give it to me instead :3
Unironicaly though there should be a mass program where old PC parts and tech are donated from people who don't want it to people who do (for example an old laptop that a retro collector might want or a broken laptop someone else might be willing to fix)
They could put it on eBay. Win-win?
Or donate to NetBSD foundation. NetBSD tends to keep old hardware alive.
load more comments
(1 replies)
I fully agree!
As much as I want to support Linux/repairability friendly companies, I want to avoid creating e-waste even more.
That’s why, for my administrative uses, I might never buy a new PC again but only get Linux friendly used ones.
As for gaming, I’ll still probably get a Steam Machine on top of my Steam Deck (got it used) as you need something more powerful and can’t just get something from 2012 if you want to be able to play recent games.
load more comments
(6 replies)
When can we get those dark chassis parts in the shop for the 16" Framework?
The dual screen Asus Zenbook Duo works great with Linux. Programmer's dream, love mine.
Such a cool device. I hope many other vendors will eventually include that form factor in their lineup. I can't wait to get my hands on a high-end Thinkpad DUO.
This is really cool, I hope they end up taking off. I wish there was something similar to this in the EU. I'd be very interested in a laptop I can upgrade over time.
I think framework are worthy of support even though the company is American.
- Regardless of who you buy from... Manufacture including assembly is done in east Asia. That's where most of your money is going.
- Framework are not tech giants. They're a small company battling giants.
- The ethos of ownership, repair and upgrade needs supporting.
- They've been following through on their promises.
So yes, I'm not buying US goods as much as I can also. I make an exception for Framework. They're the resistance in an occupied nation.
Super valid approach! I'm not out here casting judgement on where people choose to throw their money in a situation like this. I think there's plenty of nuance and room for different values to end up with different results.
load more comments
(2 replies)
load more comments
(42 replies)
view more: next ›