She didn’t think he would change bodies.
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I think it is somewhat unfair to "demand" of Beverly to be okay with her partner unexpectedly being a woman now. If she isn't into that, unfortunate, but whom people are attracted to is very much their personal business, just as whom they identify as.
you know, in any other situation I'd agree but the whole episode was framing this narrative where she gets past that. was just a super weird heel-turn to go from "okay I can fuck a very long-lived parasite without knowing if their host consents" to "okay I can fuck the parasite in Ryker without Ryker consenting even though I see him as my brother" to "a femme presenting host????? THAT'S too far"
and then she was mad and weirdly condescending about it. being upset about the premise is kind of dogshit, after all that
if she isn't attracted to a female body, then her saying no is understandable.
its not possible for a lot of people to just turn off what makes their hoo-haa happy. and holding someone responsible for what they can't control seems unfair.
obviously. it's just funny that it was somehow Goblin's fault and that she was fine with body swapping up until that point
i mean riker do got dat dick doe. and it was really just meant to be a temporary dick.
...please nobody take the band name Temporary Dick cause I want it now. lol.
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Don't go easy on them, now!
I feel like they had a second go of this theme in DS9 where Dax does do the new host
nice, it seems like as the seasons go on the themes are definitely getting deeper
I just finished watching this one yesterday actually, it annoys me so much that I struggle to watch it. Having seen it, and knowing it has absolutely no bearing on any plot, the smart thing to do would be to skip it, and yet I just slowly trudged through it anyway.
Could have been an awesome episode, but wasn't IMO. They could have even confined it to Dr. Crusher's own preferences, but instead it was a statement about humans as a whole.
3/10 episode for me, tops. And a large part of getting a 3 instead of a 1 is the introduction of the trill as a species.
it really WAS good until that moment on the end when she just got so pissed off. and then that monologue about how "maybe sOmEDaY hUMaNs wiLl bE oPeN MiNdED eNoUgH" like it had never occurred to her that sometimes Trill are female. Or she just assumed that she we was going to outlive multiple hosts and homeboy would be wearing a new skinsuit every week. do you know how silly that would be? if they had to priority-mail themselves new hosts across the galaxy every couple of months or years
Yeah it ruined the episode for me, took away everything that happened before and boiled it down to a "human" issue rather than a "Dr. Crusher" issue.
Just a mistake of an episode.
Also please remember that this episode was penned on the 80s, 40 years ago, and to say that attitudes have changed a bit is a huge understatement
If anything, take it as a complement on how much has changed for the better since then that a then very progressive show now is outdated
I think the outcome is probably closer to a real Human reaction than any progressive agenda would have you hope to believe. Not every story is a lesson on how to be better. Some stories are just about the characters.
If my beautiful wife were suddenly turned into a dude, I'm not sure my marriage would last much longer. This isn't me being shitty. This is me being human.
sort of? I'm more impressed by everything I saw up until that point. the clumsiness of the show is a credit to how people in the 80's ans 90's were trying to be forward thinking for the time against the popular culture.
this meme I made is probably overstating my reaction. you've got to understand I'm making a joke about the sudden shift in stance in a single scene and not actually bemoaning the ethics of the writing. the ethics are mostly good.
For the 80s (maybe early 90s?) that was remarkably forward looking.
transcendent explorations of love

It's fine if he doesn't have any body.
damn, really just don't fuck with blondes
How did the makeup team do Dax's spots anyway? Were they painted by hand, and a little different every day of shooting? Did they have a template and spray paint?
By hand.

Jesus, why is this picture so hot???
I think it's really hard to get a picture of Terry and have it not be super hot.
Because Terry Ferrell.
Serious reply - apart from Terry being a beautiful woman, being touched in that area - neck to clavicle - is an intimate interaction
She also pretty much eyefucks the camera here
hhhnnnnggg
On a general level, the lighting is diffuse and the focus loose. The pose is one that implies a shared moment. This gives an implied intimacy, even were it just a random pose.
However, it's also showing a shirt pulled aside, which heightens the sense of intimacy.
Overall, while it's definitely not a sexual image, we're partially conditioned to connect intimacy with sexuality. This makes it hot rather than just another picture of the same person. She's a gorgeous woman, but if she was just standing somewhere, the only "hotness" would be in the mind of the viewer since such a pose has no triggers to pull.
But this is a very sensual image. I just wonder if the person that snapped it knew what they were doing, or just got lucky.
I always figured the ending was to get the episode to air at all during the era. Like it wasn't obviously pro-tranistion, because no official protagonist transitioned or loved someone who did. :(
I'm thankful that Trek has managed stronger message with actual protagonists, since.
Of course, it must have also been to ensure the sacred expectations of television networks that episodes can air in any order because nothing meaningful changes.
for sure. crazy though that in the nineties this was just the line.