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[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 207 points 1 week ago (5 children)

That took an expert?

If you don't train juniors you don't get seniors to fix shit or to build you more AI.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 116 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Every C-Suite think they will be able to snatch senior devs that other companies will train.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 59 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

This is already the case at companies like Valve and Netflix. They “don’t hire junior devs”…

I applied for a job at Valve a couple of years ago and was told that my over decade of development experience didn’t make me senior enough.

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Valve has the sweetest of all business models: do almost nothing, make tons of money. They have so few employees.

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[–] MirrorGiraffe@piefed.social 21 points 1 week ago

This has been the case since way before the LLM boom but it has definitely moved into a higher gear.

[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They really believe that seniors will move to their slop based company after all the shit they dug themselves into. The heads of these ceos must be full of unicorn shit and rainbows.

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[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago

The bourgeoisie no longer holds any care whatsoever for sustainability.

Quire seriously, their only goal is to obtain enough wealth and power that they won't feel the effects of losing any of it until they die. That's their literal goal. All hell is allowed to break loose, but only after they die.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 26 points 1 week ago

Let the other companies be the suckers that take a loss on training juniors into seniors

You know, those other companies that also use AI instead of hiring juniors.

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[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 97 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They don't care. They only care about short term profits. Capitalism only cares about immediate profits and doesn't plan for the long term. The management at the top know they won't be there when the system fails. They'll get their massive paycheques and cash out their stock long before it crashes.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (6 children)

They can't care. If they don't relentlessly pursue profit quarter after quarter, they'll be consumed by companies who will. There is no planning for the future, only profits.

[–] BigJohnnyHines@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago

Also the system selects for mental illness so a lot of the worst offenders here literally can’t feel empathy.

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[–] ferrule@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago

I worked in the energy industry for over a decade and a half and I was amazed at how every CEO we had (because they rotated out every couple of years) seemed to only pick the actions that made stort term money while royally screwing over the next CEO's tenure. And the crazy part was everyone knew this was happening. Some CEOs even stated the quiet part out loud.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The onus is on us, we senior tech workers, to gouge the absolute shit out of future companies to show them the error of their ways.

[–] PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

And when they start hiring juniors again, insist on onboarding those motherfuckers like you're teaching a CS degree. The young'ns deserve to learn, this is some bullshit.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Only semi-related but check for local computer clubs/maker spaces in your area. Ours does everything from tutoring/group learning to monthly LAN parties. Learning CAD from Youtube is okay, learning CAD while being able to ask questions of a professional engineer is even better!

I've been helping people move to/learn Linux (we have a bunch of donated Windows 10 desktop hardware to play with), it's pretty rewarding to teach people who actually want to learn (training new hires who are clearly bored is not so much...) and we usually end up giving them the machine that they're learning on if they need it.

Just another way to pass it on and get some offline nerd socialization, if you're into that kind of thing.

[–] PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This is delicious in every way, I really love it. Kudos!!

Here's my tidbit - if you're in the US and in a not-tiny or remote part of it, good chance you can find people offloading old Dell business-class laptops, workstations, all the way up to v. spendy server machines, depending directly on number of school systems, corporate office spaces (and etc), and industrial or info-tech type businesses nearby. Respectively, and with some overlap and such 😅

Beyond the obvious benefits for sustainability (reuse!) and affordability - business-class Dell have always been engineered quite well (expensively, and uhhh... opinionatedly, lol).

Arguably even more useful, all those well-engineered things were made in huge volume. You will ~always be able to find cheap parts. And, if buying a lot, by having a handful of the ~same thing (all destined for a dumpster), you already get redundancy, and...ahem...some very useful teachable moments lol.

It feels like a cheat code. Place populated enough and there will def be businesses whose main thing is snapping these up, cleaning up and etc and reselling. But I'm in a not-tiny place and I still see some deals. OTOH, all of that got a lot worse once hardware prices jumped the shark, so, maybe this tip is already outdated.

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[–] TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Gen Z? This bullshit has been ongoing since the early 00's. Every fucking company wants applicants with 5+ years experience straight out of the gate, with training provided by anyone else but them, and to pay the new hire as if they rolled out of their High School grad through the front door. Look to Gen Y if you want to see what's going to happen again (more self-service kiosks and useless chatbots). Many of the kids training for these jobs are going to completely abandon their chosen career track in favour of work that's responsive to their needs - things like actually responding to applications and paying their fucking rent/mortgage. I'm finding to people in their early 20's who're already sick of this shit, without a clear understanding of what's happened to the labour market.

[–] DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 week ago (6 children)

So I've been utilizing the big LLMs to help increase my productivity at work. And I have to say, yes, it absolutely makes me more productive.

However, I can only be more productive because I already have 25 years of experience in my field and I am already a senior and I can guide the "AI" to what I really need help with and I can see the mistakes it makes.

There is absolutely no way someone who hasn't already been doing this job for 25 years would be able to just sit down with an AI assistant and replace me.

And my company has not hired any associate level employees who could replace me. All my peers are 5-7 years away from retirement. I'm 11 years away from retirement.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 11 points 1 week ago

The problem is that it doesn't matter how useful and irreplaceable you know you are, if a company decides it's replacing you with AI, they'll do it anyway. They may decide later that they were wrong, and you were right, but it doesn't matter, you're still unemployed.

Companies shoot themselves in the foot all the time. You can't count on them to do the smart thing, even if it's obvious. The second some C-Level gets these the idea that they can save money by firing a bunch of people, it's going to happen, no matter how ill-advised.

[–] Patrikvo@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago

All a LLM gives you is three virtual interns in an expert's trenchcoat.

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[–] dasrael@lemmy.zip 40 points 1 week ago

Warning a company is like talking to a wall. It doesn't care about tomorrow, hell, it exists on exploitation of tomorrow for today. If you expect the free market or business to save you, youre fucked.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago

AI should replace CEOs they’re all overpaid morons

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

~~Read~~ Not optimize shareholder value

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (22 children)

Good, let ‘em ruin themselves. We need the people in healthcare and education anyway. In the meantime, tax the companies to hell because they’ve lost all value now they’re not even “creating jobs” in your country.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 27 points 1 week ago (50 children)

Not all that great for the people who now can't get jobs.

Take me for example. I like to think I'm a pretty good software engineer. And I actually enjoy it. I'd be a pretty bad doctor and an even worse teacher (I'm also a man so that would limit me to teaching teenagers and older anyway, nobody wants men near children in education).

Don't give much of a fuck about the companies, but a lot of people are now denied a career path that might've been THE thing they're great at and enjoy doing. This is about several different fields, of which mine is one. I'm quite lucky I got in when I did. Otherwise I'd have to start considering suicide by now because I can't stand manual labour or customer service.

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[–] tinfoilhat@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Short term gains with no regards for the future. It's the capitalist way.

[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 8 points 1 week ago

and they wonder how China keeps coming out on top

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

They don’t care. That’s not this quarter.

[–] Jeffool@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

And they'll just hire more H-1B visa employees for more and more smaller roles, and they have them in an even tighter place than they could American workers. It's not like they're blind to the issue. It's the plan.

[–] sobchak@programming.dev 8 points 1 week ago

I think offshoring/nearshoring is booming right now. Tons of "Global Capability Centers" being built. It's even cheaper than H-1B.

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[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Where have we seen that before? The computerisation of companies and governments in the 90s? As I recall the most junior entry level jobs went causing massive skill development problems and shortages of trained staff to fill vacancies that went on for years.

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[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The lost geenration that was denied a place in society should use their skills to create a new society without them

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[–] nightlily@leminal.space 9 points 1 week ago

No shit? I guess because it’s not coming from us „luddites“ it‘s suddenly worth paying attention to.

But how will it effect next quarter?

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