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I feel sorry for them. But then again, this is what they want.
They oppose making parking expensive.
They oppose bus lanes
They oppose bike lanes.
They oppose trains
They oppose train stations.
They oppose congestion pricing.
They oppose any measure that might reduce car dependency.
More lanes wil definitely fix this issue
Just one more lane....
Doug Ford wants to build a tunnel under it to add more lanes.
Yes, he's as stupid as he sounds.
No he doesn't he just wants a convenient way to funnel money to people paid to 'study' this boondoggle.
Worth calling out who "they" are, cause I know a LOT of people who don't want this.
The federal government certainly doesn't seem like they're doing much to reduce car dependency right now with the motion to fast track oil and gas pipelines. (Worth editing in this part for those in the UK: Yes, the current government is led by the same Carney you might know.)
The provincial government, where this highway is situated, proposed adding a tunnel, yes you read that right, A FUCKING TUNNEL!, underneath this highway TO ALLOW MORE CARS ON THE ROAD.
The Toronto City Council (which, to be fair, has less sway here) is filled with car-brained nutjobs from the suburbs who oppose every measure that they perceive makes it harder for them to get into the city.
Obligatory Fuck Doug Ford
Fuck Doug Ford indeed.
The tunnel was a stupid idea from a high school dropout. GTA needs to upgrade the GO trains, but none of the Vaughan Canadesi get rich off that.
It's only 16 lanes. Have they try 32 lanes?
They want to build a tunnel underneath it to add more lanes, so unironically yes.
It's around 18 or 19 at its widest so it isn't like they aren't trying.
I feel sorry for them. But then again, this is what they want.
No, it's what the GTA suburban people want. I live in Ottawa but travel to Toronto quite often and the actual city doesn't want any of that shit but our province is run by a petty mob boss
You can thank my fellow Ontarians for being fucking morons and electing Doug Ford who rewards his contractor buddies with expensive projects like making another layer of highway instead of improving our ailing railway infrastructure.
Doug Ford wants to double it by digging a tunnel underneath the 401. Not for electric trains. But more cars. Because I really want to drive in darkened smoggy tunnels.
I can't wait for the entire tunnel to be closed by an accident. If you thought being stuck on the 401 was bad enough when there's an accident, now try having absolutely nothing to look at while you do so! And if something catches fire, it'll be far worse than above ground.
Tunnel ventilation is a solved problem. I'd actually prefer if all city highways were underground.
Ok. You got me there. In a perfect world, fast subterranean mechanized electric transport would be ideal, freeing the surface for more parks, forests and bikepaths.
Edit: that is not what Douggie is planning.
Nothing like getting stuck in traffic underground
Another lane, maybe?
According to Doug Ford, a huge ass tunnel.
He is, without a doubt, a fucking moron.
But somehow, Ontarians still vote for him.
Yeah, there's so much unused space in this picture: houses, trees, ... Those could all be roads. Really this picture just shows how the woke "not everything is a road" policy has failed regular, everyday drivers.
Hereβs an idea: If we have people live in their cars, we can eliminate housing and parkland and successfully turn all land into highways!
Metro Toronto is a disappointment. It should be have been doubling its subway network every 20 years. Instead it shut down a line, added a few stations on another, and built LRT that's slower than the bus it replaced.
It needs express subway tracks, GO with 10 minutes headways, and transit oriented development able to house 10k people within a ten minute walk of every GO stop which means zoning for density,
Pay for it by owning the land around stations like HK or Singapore and leasing it to developers for 40 story affordable apartments, increasing the gasoline tax, and putting tolls on the 401 and Gardiner.
Toronto is a transportation nightmare. It's time to adopt successful models from Asia to make transit fast, convenient, and cheap while making driving fast, convenient, and incredibly expensive. Fill in with protected bike lanes and the city will be liveable and affordable with great air quality
Toronto is one Ford family grift piled on top of another. All city planning is based on favours owed to their buddies or to keep their degenerate relatives afloat.
No one is pointing out the other side of this that gets neglected and that is βthe demand to live just outside the core but commute to the core dailyβ.
That just does not work, full stop. There was a time that it seemed to work but we already reached the capacity.
Even if we have great transportation, having people move so much on a daily basis is a bad idea.
We really need to move away from the one big city mindset, but itβs not easy to do
Work from home should be encouraged. It helped a little during the pandemic, places outside of Toronto saw an influx of people; Orilla, Peterborough, Owen Sound. But Ford ordered all the employees back to the office, and now that model is suffering.
Just one more lane bro
That must be so fucking loud to be near
Oh it is, and there's "luxury" condos right beside it selling for stupid high prices
401 is a disaster but I disagree with some of your points. Parking is expensive as fuck, especially downtown. Trains are available, they are actively building a new LRT system. The city is dense as fuck so where would you propose putting more stations?
They've literally been building new subway lines
30 years too late.
The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago.
The second best time is now.
just one more lane bro. i promise bro just one more lane and it'll fix everything bro. bro... just one more lane. please just one more. one more lane and we can fix this whole problem bro. bro c'mon just give me one more lane i promise bro. bro bro please i just need one more lane
Who is "they"? Traffic reducing measures are generally popular with people living in cities, but stopped by suburban NIMBYs who commute. Just because someone is driving a car doesn't automatically make them part of the problem.
Doug Ford and the PCs.
What a horrible highway to drive through. The very few times I've been to Toronto, I have dreaded driving through this. It's ridiculous.
Every one of those transport trucks could be consolidated into one freight train...
But also, fuck the cars
401 Unauthorized
One more lane will fix that. /s just in case.
When did we, as a people, decide that this is development?
Yeah these stupid anti car people donβt get it. We just need an extra lane! Get rid of train tracks and bike lanes to free up more space!
Maybe instead of cars everyone can have motorhomes. Then we wonβt have houses or neighbourhoods getting in the way of us building more lanes!!
/s just in case
Regarding all the "they" in the description: there's a huge difference in attitudes between people in the GTA (Greater Toronto Area) and Trontonians proper...