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[–] toebert@piefed.social 2 points 28 minutes ago

Is it like.. they'll offer to pay me a subscription fee to use them oooor..?

[–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 9 hours ago

I been discovering lately that many people in my circles are using Signal. I fucking hate whatsapp and would love to switch to Signal. But this dumb fuck app is too common around here. That is such a relief that these people do have it. Baby steps.

[–] LemmyEntertainYou@piefed.social 8 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Would anyone seriously pay a subscription for a messaging app? As long as I can send and receive messages that's all the functionality I need and the second they try to charge for that, everyone will jump ship anyway.

I guess Discord Nitro has existed for a while but I don't know a single person who's even considered it, never mind actually subscribe.

[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 2 points 8 hours ago

Well, I paid 1 euro for Whatsapp back in the day because it was the only option besides SMS and so that 1 euro was way cheaper.

These days I gladly pay a couple bucks for a chat app that everybody uses so that they can pay the bills without selling my data or being funded by a corrupt government.

Which is went to Matrix, but it is hard to get people on the server I host myself.

I have a monthly dono to signal & i know a shitload of people who have nitro or at least nitro basic -- that's EXTREMELY common for all the profile customizations

[–] bountygiver@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

WhatsApp used to not be free, I'm talking about before meta bought them, and totally worth paying the subscription for as they were the one of the kind multi-platform messenger working with all the non-smart phones that have internet connectivity and ability to install 3rd party apps.

And back when they charged for service they do not collect all your data.

[–] LemmyEntertainYou@piefed.social 1 points 8 hours ago

I remember WhatsApp telling me I only got a year free when I first started using it but they never asked for payment after that. Maybe that fell in line with Meta buying them.

[–] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Yes! Amazing!

The downfall is finally happening. It is one thing about scraping data from people for free, but most will never pay a cent for it.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 5 points 10 hours ago

They're charging for premium features, not for basic access to the service.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

People on Facebook after a certain point willingly gave up their name and address to sign up for it; I kinda doubt they know or care about their data being scraped.

[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 4 points 12 hours ago

I was truly shocked when this happened. I read about it and was like: haha, no one is giving out their real adress and or phone number on the internet. How dumb do they think people are? Oh...

[–] bfg9k@lemmy.world 30 points 23 hours ago
[–] cinoreus@lemmy.world 140 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How interesting their paid tier has no mention of being ad free

[–] Luisp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

ads make them up to $20 a day, they would have to charge $600 a month to equals profits

[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I didn't realize it was that high- im seeing that the average is around $15 a month, but I'm sure there are whales that hit that $600/mo

[–] kevincox@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

The problem is that only your heaviest users are going to pay to remove the ads, so it doesn't make sense to price the subscription at any sort of average user. You need to slide the price point way up the distribution just to break even.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Honestly, if they did this instead of being the data collection, forced fed ads and manipulation machine that they are id think its great. But they're going to be just as evil and now youre paying them which is stupid.

[–] magnue@lemmy.world 107 points 1 day ago (4 children)

"subscribing to Instagram Plus ($3.99/mo), Facebook Plus ($3.99/mo), or WhatsApp Plus ($2.99/mo) will gain access to extra features, like profile customization, super reactions, and story insights, among other things."

I'll pass on that.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Notice almost all of this is outward facing. It doesn't improve your experience, but it gives you a thing that others see. The goal is the same thing as children bullying other children to buy iPhones. They don't know what the product is. They just built in features that tell you if other people aren't using it, so you can make fun of them.

[–] MinFapper@startrek.website 20 points 1 day ago

You didn't mention a lack of ads. They remove all the ads when you subscribe, right?

padme Anakin meme

[–] unitedwithme@lemmy.today 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I passed on it a decade ago. Got out when shit was getting bad with ads, memes, and other stuff not actually "social".

[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It's the opposite of social. Especially facebook. There are only companies there, no actual people left (except some boomers maybe)

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[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago

Pay today to get what MySpace gave for free 15 years ago.

[–] gedfromgont@piefed.ca 75 points 1 day ago

Welp, time to do the "previously free and basic feature is now moved into paid plan" dance every few months.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 1 day ago

Genuienly hilarious.

You would have to pay me to have an account on any of those apps.

Oh, man, attention/validation addicts are really something.

They monetized human insecurity. Amazing.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 day ago (3 children)

People that still use meta

What a bunch of losers

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

For some types of businesses, particularly smaller ones, IG is literally a critical part of marketing. SEO alone often doesn't cut it, if Google also takes into account activity on other platforms, and even then a majority of website activity comes from people seeing posts on Instagram.

No clue how the most recent enshittification affects that, but I doubt the core recommendation logic will have changed radically.

It's fucked, but the tech corps sucking off each other makes self-employment hard if you don't play their games.

[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Considering that's how most cities get info out kinda makes sense people still use it. Not to mention good luck getting little ol' grandma to switch to signal or Lemmy

[–] foo@feddit.uk 7 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Public institutions would be better using something like Mastodon for announcements. They'd have the option to retain full control over their instance and citizens wouldn't need an account to access it.

[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 23 hours ago

Definitely. The problem is the worlds run by corpo fascists and they will do everything they can to maintain their control through tech.

If the right people are in the right positions though it becomes alot simpler to make happen.

[–] Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf 4 points 21 hours ago

No one needs Lemmy. For Signal, just install it on her phone and text her. That's all it takes.

[–] Ithral@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 23 hours ago

Getting grandma on signal isn't to hard, Lemmy might be harder

[–] kazerniel@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

network effect is strong

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 9 points 23 hours ago

Honey! New idiot tax just dropped!

[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 61 points 1 day ago

Good. Kill off this shit sooner

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For a few dollars per month, consumers subscribing to Instagram Plus ($3.99/mo), Facebook Plus ($3.99/mo), or WhatsApp Plus ($2.99/mo) will gain access to extra features, like profile customization, super reactions, and story insights, among other things.

Ah, they're doing the Discord Nitro thing?

[–] Kekzkrieger@feddit.org 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Does anyone actually use Discord Nitro?

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

I see surprisingly many on the servers I frequent. It's included in Xbox GamePass now, so I guess that has caused a massive boost to the userbase, too

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[–] flameleaf@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago

You'd have to pay me to use that crap

[–] pimat@feddit.org 29 points 1 day ago

Fuck all the way off with all this subscriptions to finally make this AI shit profitable. It won't work and people don't need all this datacenters. I really hate this timeline and all this billionaire bullshit.

Ah, enshittification, my old friend. Here we go again.

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Facebook probably isn't the one to do it. But paid social media, if it worked like social media from 1999, would probably be worth a few bucks a month.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It used to be that your ISP included subscription for newsgroups, etc in the connection costs.

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Still just a couple bucks if newsgroups float your boat!

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[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

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