this post was submitted on 22 Jun 2026
229 points (97.1% liked)

politics

30158 readers
3101 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Four young people—Charlotte Head, Samuel Corner, Leona Kamio, and Fatema Rajwani—were sentenced as terrorists this week for the crime of criminal damage. They broke into an Elbit Systems factory in Filton, near Bristol, and caused approximately £1.2 million worth of damage. They livestreamed the whole thing wearing their, now iconic, red jumpsuits and they acted in the open.

A jury of their peers, that is, Brits, convicted them of criminal damage. Not terrorism or any kind of violent disorder. Simple criminal damage.

But here is where the really nightmarish situation begins. The judge, Mr Justice Johnson, had already decided that he would add a ‘terrorist connection’ to their sentences. He did this secretly, before the verdict and the jury was never told this was being considered. The defence was never given the opportunity to address it. The conviction came down on criminal damage charges. And then the judge, alone, unilaterally, declared that these young people are terrorists. Image

I did my research and found out this has never happened before in British legal history. Direct action protesters have never been treated this way. Criminal damage has never been considered a terrorist offence. The barrister for the defence, Rajiv Menon KC, called it ‘chilling and creeping authoritarianism’.

He is not wrong.

all 30 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And then the judge, alone, unilaterally, declared that these young people are terrorists. Image

That's not what happened. Criminal damage conviction carries up to 10 years of jail. People usually spend in jail half of their sentence before they qualify for parole. In case of crimes with maximum penalty of 2 years or more the judge can apply "terrorist connection" aggravating factor. When applied it means the convict has to spend at least 2/3 of the sentence in jail before they qualify for parole.

The protesters are part of organization that is recognized as terrorist organization by the UK government. This was recently confirmed by the highest UK court. The judge applied "terrorist connection" aggravating factor. He did not convict them of any additional crimes or declared anyone a terrorist.

[–] SalamiDommie@lemmus.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks for filling in the gaps. This version of the report, like most things, is intentionally misleading.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah, it's all just propaganda intentionally pushing one sided narrative. The wording is misleading on purpose. There is valid argument against the counter-terrorism act and it's ok to use this case to show its flaws but lying about the case is not the right way to do it.

[–] kurmudgeon@lemmy.world 60 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If you get in the way of making money in a capitalist society, you're a terrorist now. Terror used to invoke images of death, violence, etc. Now it's defacing or destroying property causing lost revenue.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Losing money is terrifying to rich people so it does make sense. I think they they need to get over that fear though. I hear immersion therapy is pretty effective.

[–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

The problem is all in their heads, and therefore the solution is to separate their heads from their bodies. Instant relief!

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 29 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Couldn't they appeal to a higher court in basis of this?

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

In the US it would be the easiest appeal for judicial bias ever filed.

In the UK? The rules are looser.

[–] Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm sure that's in the works.

I don't have much faith in anyone who has ever touched a powdered wig.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

I dated a barrister for a while. She liked to wear her wig during times of intimacy. And that was one of the least of her kinks.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ever notice how the countries who are the most pro-Israel are the same countries that restricted Jewish immigration during the holocaust? We never talk about how Jewish immigration to Palestine means they're not immigrants to England or the US.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_St._Louis

[–] treehugger6@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] mech@feddit.org 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"The greatest injustice in modern British history" is a pretty high bar to clear.

[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

The greatest british tragedy was the privatization of the commons. Creating a worker class they'd mistreat.

[–] Wataba@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I just read up about the Cossacks being handed over to Stalin for execution by the British, so they could get their own POWs back from the communists.

Not just the Cossacks that fought with the Nazis, which would be understandable. All of them, including children. Even ones that had left Russia before communism took hold and never associated with the Nazis.

Because the Brits in charge of the handover were lazy and couldnt be fucked to actually follow the terms of the exchange properly.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Windrush is far worse.

[–] BigMacHole@thelemmy.club 11 points 1 day ago

Good! It's ABOUT Time we PUNISH Destruction of Property with HARSHER Sentences then if they had MURDERED someone Instead! THAT will Stop people!

[–] BillCheddar@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Do you not know where the judge lives?

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

You can't fight lawlessness in your government by following the laws of your government.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was wondering why there was a lack of capitalization in the headline and the headers but then I realized this was a shitty substack article.

This was an injustice but King Chuckle's covering for his brother the Epstein files rapist is just as disgusting as this.

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Maybe all the folks that died in the tower of London would have objections too