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It's both sad and stupid that societies barely care about animal abuse.
First, it's depressing that their lives mean nothing whatsoever, but at the very least it's somewhat understandable. Even human lives mean little, so why should animal lives mean anything to the epstein class?
Second, animal abusers and human abusers are always the exact same people. I'm not aware of any concrete data, but from my experience the overlap is either 100% or very close. They usually start with abusing animals, then see that they can do it freely without punishment, and eventually move on to abuse people. And of course, politicians and businessmen tend to be animal abusers disproportionately more often. Shocker.
The pipeline is plain as day.
It's a similar situation to accommodating disabled people. Society doesn't care, because it's a 'tiny minority', and won't spend resources on them. As if it was short on resources. And then you realize that most people eventually become disabled in some capacity, especially as they age. So turns out those investments into a 'minority' would have helped almost everyone, in addition to being the right thing to do.
Who would have thought that being a resonably decent person and helping out your neighbours leads to a better world for everyone? But no. A bunch of satanic pedophiles had to ensure our societies are cruel, and rotten to the core, becuause they just love watching suffering so much.
hoarders/neglect is also abuse, since they represent a significant portion of shelter animals, also BYB too.
I'm so tired...
This country and a lot of the world right now is so depressing.
Good and decent people have been plowed back into the soil as horrible people like Trump have risen to power.
The amount of people taking advantage of the bad shit they do is astonishingly high.
It's capitalism. A political system based on greed will naturally favor the worst of the worst. It's as if someone designed it based on a history of moral corruption.
People into reincarnarion must be some real masochists.
Animal lovers are another level of determined. (If you’ve ever seen a PETA ad, you know what I mean.) Pissing them off might be ICE’s undoing.
If you love animals, then you should be warned that the only solution for the problems ICE creates is to abolish ICE altogether. They’re an organization that’s corrupt beyond reform.
I find it wild that people find it easier to get angry enough to care about 2 dogs than for almost half a million human beings, but I don't disagree. We are a mentally really messed up people.
I've read the writers of John Wick introduced the dog as the plot motivator because just having his wife killed wasn't emotionally investing enough for audiences to "justify" (or buy into) the revenge rampage. The dog did a better job at immediately establishing the villians as irredeemably monstrous.
There's something about the innocence of animals that sets people off big time.
Certainly triggers the LAPD.
Animals have no capacity for evil, and therefore they win. Also, people have a hard time thinking about death tolls in large numbers, they kind of just become white noise. Half a million people dead is too many to thinking about all at the same time and retain your sanity. Most people choose sanity.
I would agree if you said they lack any sort of universal morality.
I would agree if you said they lack the tools for the sort of industrial scale applications of evil that humans do.
I would agree if you said there is a perception of "innocence".
But animals absolutely have the capacity, capabilities and sometimes "desire" for "evil" as defined by people.
They turn their heads and don't see any of them as people to begin with.
please... peta would side with ice, claim the individuals were the abusers then they would kill the dogs themselves.
peta is NOT ethical by any means.. hopefully they can prove the world wrong on this, but I highly doubt it.
If ICE goes down to Animal Rights violations because they can't get charges on Human Right vuolations...
You know how it's a cliché that an early warning sign of serial killers and other psychopaths is cruelty to animals?
Welp.
Except if you make money with torturing animals. Then it's fine
ICE is human trash. Absolutely horrible.
ICE aside, it is important to have a contingency plan in place in the event of "sudden incapacitation."
Someone outside the household checking in, leaving out a generous supply of food and water, etc. Keeping emergency contact info up to date, e.g. so work knows who to call if you stop showing up.
I'm not victim blaming here. This is something that can happen for a variety of mundane reasons.
That's what your support network (typically family or community) is supposed to provide. However, ICE's complete lack of transparency is part of the rot. No one knows what the fuck is going on inside, there is zero accountability, and they don't report on the people in their custody. They either cage them like lab mice or ship them an ocean away like the literal Nazi mafia they are.
E: Not that I disagree at all
This was and is still true, especially of elderly and children. People are so isolated from their neighbors; we saw that during COVID and we see it now.
If you don’t want ICE employees literally killed, you’re a shitty human.
Shoot the top folk and lock up the rest for life. Only way out.
That sort of incarceration mindset is half the problem.
However, locking them in a morality/social skills school/rehabilitation center until they demonstrate they understand the harms they've done and are truly repentant, which could be life, I can get behind.
Until the next MAGAt is elected and pardons them all. You know, like the Jan 6’ers.
That's what all incarceration should be.
Two pet dogs were left locked inside an apartment for about a week with no food or water after ICE agents detained their owner and didn’t report the animals' presence to any authority, according to videos on social media.
The dogs reportedly watched federal agents take their owner away in Oklahoma last January, reports the Daily Beast. The agents left without notifying animal control, leaving the pets trapped for days with nothing to eat or drink.
ICE are bunch of POS neo-Nazis.
It's always tearjerker shit for the dogs, rarely a thought for the humans. People care more about strangers dogs than strangers.
Stupidly, the laws )as enforced under the present regime) give ICE the right to kidnap the people but the laws against animal abuse could provide leverage against them.
Sadly, plenty of the same people who don't give a shit about the abuse of "them damn illegals" are also fine with abusing "dumb animals."
I've had the experience of knowing some MAGAs and they can't see past their own interests.
They don't even know what their interests are until Fox News tells them
I’m too stupid to know how to fix this or help but if anyone has any ideas I will work for free
Start building drones that can drop…baseballs.

pretty sure it's called 2nd amendment
I think what needs to be done rhymes with constitution
Depending on your area there are lots of anti ice groups you can organize with. Different ones are more popular in different locations if you're looking to get involved personally. The best thing we can all do is likely donate. More and better legal representation seems to be the best option for most people affected and that costs money.
they certainly would not want to have been seen treating animals better than humans. so they give 'em the same treatment, i guess.