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Just in time for them to take physical discs away!

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[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 4 points 43 minutes ago

Seems illegal.

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago

ill be sure to tell my siblings to sign into my account every 3 years. gee thanks sony. whats the fucking point of this

[–] AlexCory21@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Is it time for me to try to mod my ps4 so I can keep all my games? Does ps4 support soft modding yet? Cause I can't solder...

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 21 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

This is for UK and EU due to GDPR that requires companies delete all user data for inactive accounts. It's a unintended consequences of the law and other gaming companies including Xbox have similar clauses.

https://playfront.de/en/psn-kontoloeschung-sony-loescht-inaktive-accounts-asutomatisch-nach-3-jahren/

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 14 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

The law says they can’t keep your PII after you stop being a customer, not anything about linking your email address to purchases for an entirely legitimate ongoing reason.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

The law covers personal data not PII and is much broader than PII that is defined under the US Office of Privacy and Open Government which has no bearing on the GDPR.

As for personal data, email addresses are covered and even user names could be considered personal data depending on if it's linkable to a person and since your account is linked to your email and linked to you user name potentially, when they have to delete personal data the have to delete all of those foreign keys in their database that says your email once got a receipt for that game you bought digitally.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 12 points 2 hours ago

Except they don’t have to delete any of that as long as you hold ongoing software licenses with them, as that’s a legitimate interest. This is malicious compliance posing as “well they made us do it”, same as all the GDPR banners on the web.

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 hours ago

I'm not here to defend the corporations.

Email addresses are PII under GDPR, aren't they? So linking email addresses to purchase history is explicitly retaining PII and data about someone they can identify.

[–] ApollosArrow@lemmy.world 12 points 3 hours ago

There are doing a speed run no one wants.

[–] BromSwolligans@lemmy.world 49 points 6 hours ago
[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 35 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

how is that even legal?

we need better consumer protection for digital purchases.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

It’s literally because of consumer protection laws. GDPR requires the deletion of unused data, to ensure companies aren’t just holding onto your data indefinitely. This is simply the consequence of that, because Sony has apparently determined that three years is enough of a threshold to be considered “unused”.

[–] Dunstabzugshaubitze@feddit.org 4 points 33 minutes ago

GDPR only requires that, if there is no legitimate use for keeping the data. Ongoing software license is a legitimate use.

[–] harmbugler@piefed.social 3 points 1 hour ago

It really reveals the nature of your purchase, doesn't it? Apparently you are just buying some entries in a database. Sadly any software we can't use offline can just be deleted like this. The pendulum swung too far towards the cloud, hopefully it comes back down to earth soon.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 52 points 7 hours ago

I logged into steam after like 15 years and it still worked.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 2 points 3 hours ago

Wow, say what you want about Microsoft but the worst I had to do with my Xbox Live was repatriate it from a Russian hacker.

[–] sleepmode@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago

I jumped after PS3. I logged in one day to find a message that the Smash Brothers clone I enjoyed was removed from my library and the servers shut down. Just, out of nowhere. Also, the low frame rate and FOV in some games started giving me motion sickness consistently. I do miss the simplicity of owning consoles and the excitement of new hardware releases.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 96 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

It's almost like Sony doesn't want to have a PlayStation division anymore.

[–] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I wouldn't be surprised.

The whole tech industry is very overtly hell bent on pushing through an ai controlled dystopia.

What good would the current model of gaming be?

Have a bunch of people work very hard on a game and all that work "loses it's value" after a year or so. (In their eyes, shit's gotta sell).

When you can have ai just dream/hallucinate up a game and stream that instead? (It's nowhere near that yet, but holy shit would they love it)

Now you have an endless stream of stuff to sell that costs you zero manpower.

Now the good peasants go work and can have half an hour of slop per day as a reward. And if they revolt, you just cut them off.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It's odd timing given that microsoft seems to be giving up on Xbox

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 hours ago

The Xbox people have a better grasp of things. Consoles have little reason to exist... and the writing was on the wall when the PS3 stumbled out the gate. Really, in the PS2 era, all those Renderware / id Tech 3 / Unreal 1 games running the same on every platform was a big hint that there was no longer a benefit to having different platforms. Now there's just various badges over x86 PCs and smartphones - and the smartphones are starting to run Steam games.

None of which is to say that Microsoft has conducted their grand scheme to computer-ify the console market with any degree of finesse, consistency, or follow-through. They're still idiots for setting successful studios on fire, and for refusing to shit or get off the pot vis-a-vis whether there's gonna be an Xbox The Next One.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago

Is this an attempt to temporarily artifically inflate unique account activity metrics for self-congratulation and shareholder ego stroking?

(This month X millions players logged in to play games, which is a significant increase from before!)

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 102 points 10 hours ago

Notably, the clause is conspicuously absent from terms governing Mexico, the United States, and several other regions, meaning players there are not currently subject to the policy. By contrast, the provision has been enforceable in the United Kingdom and various European countries for years, though it largely escaped public notice until the recent physical-format debate brought renewed scrutiny to Sony’s digital practices.

[–] LemmyEntertainYou@piefed.social 29 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

My biggest mistake was buying a PS4 instead of jumping to PC a generation earlier than I eventually did.

[–] tabularasa@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 hours ago

I bought my wife a ps5. Regretting that decision too.

[–] tixooo@lemmy.zip 55 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

guys let me introduce you to chinese handhelds with 1351251351513 games on, your old shool consoles with physical disk, and remind you of ALL THOSE cool games you always wanted to play but had no time to do so.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The problem is that most of the trillions of games suck and the ones that I had heard of often aren't on there. I also wish there was some way for multiplayer, I would pay more if they figured that out for some games.

[–] tixooo@lemmy.zip 1 points 37 minutes ago

There is a way you put your own games. Most of those handhrlds are simple emulators that you can put whatever you like up to ps3 in some cases even (hard).

There is multiplayer. Almost all modern handheld Chinese consoles have multiplayer for many games. Look it up, they are very mature.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

Yeah really I have no desire for new stuff. Like, why? Ive never once cared about graphics, even when I was around 8, I remember thinking people caring about graphics was stupid, because its the game that matters. Never have I bought a game because it was "shiny" or because I could see a baseball players eyelash. Who cares. I want a game, not a reality simulator (well, I do enjoy walking/ driving simulators once in a while, but not because of graphics!)

Now flashy graphics are fine and all but not at the expense of the game.

Iif I even tried completing every game from 1975 to 1999, I'd have enough play for more than a lifetime of gaming.

New really isnt that great, for me. Some good indie games here and there, sure.

[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

You like walking simulators? You should try DayZ

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I have, it was too complex for me

[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 1 points 2 hours ago

Pick a direction, walk until you die. Rinse, and repeat.

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

I always goto Civilization as the example. One of the best games ever before the recent versions.... No emphasis on graphics....just well balanced strategy and gameplay. Civ 3 ftw

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 3 points 6 hours ago

I think ps3 graphics are good enough any thing higher doesn't make me more immersed and pulling out of immersion to go "oooo pretty" is neat now and then but not that important. I'll say I do occasionally stop to be impressed by really good shadows though

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[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 33 points 9 hours ago
[–] qwestjest78@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago

Oh no... anyway

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 28 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Sony’s reminding me of their “599 US DOLLARS” era very heavily lately. Gaming has been in such a rough spot lately, it’s a shame.

It had the curse of being worth more than movies and television, so it attracted every "entertainment" investor around, demanding short term profits like movies do. Now we have giant corporations thinking they can even remotely understand what a creative medium is, and then being shocked when we don't buy their latest "written by HR"/microtransaction bullshit. Meanwhile Indie is doing great! Surprise, creative people make good creative products.

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 19 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

The fact that digital everything has been such a clusterfuck of unwashed ass pushed me back to rock climbing. Thanks/go fuck yourself tech conglomerates! I’ve definitely drawn similar associations, Rick

[–] Waterpumpee@lemmus.org 10 points 9 hours ago

I started playing ukulele because i did not feel like spending a years savings on a new gaming pc and nvidia fucked up gforce now. A recorder/flute is like 7 $. But its impossible to play silent.

[–] homes@piefed.world 0 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Plex lifetime pass. $45, 2011. Can’t take that away from me. I’ve got 75 TB of fuck you, Sony.

[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Lmao plex has been pulling anti consumer bullshit for years

[–] homes@piefed.world 0 points 9 minutes ago
[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 20 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

I haven't logged in since my PS3 died a couple years ago.

Tried to log in to their website with my saved password. It said the password was wrong. I reset my password, entered the same one that I previously used, fully expecting it to give the frustrating answer "Previous passwords can't be re-used." But no, it let me use it! Weird.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 18 points 9 hours ago

So some password systems prepend the hash algorithm to your password hash, that way you can tell if the user has migrated to the new algorithm or not when you change your hashing scheme.

Odds are after the PSN breach they changed the algorithm and have since removed the code to check the old algorithm. So it just sees the hash didn’t match with the new algorithm even though the password is the same.

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[–] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world 14 points 10 hours ago

Wow this seems like a gross overstep of boundaries . Fuckin, oh well i guess

[–] Master167@lemmy.world 12 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It's updates like this that make me wish for a 'git diff' of those changes.

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[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 2 points 7 hours ago

Or if you are from Russia. Apparently that was never about the war 🥴

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