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That’s only because they don’t think they can reintroduce chattel slavery. Their actual endgame, if they accomplish this, will be much, much worse.
It's constantly a slippery f'n slope with these people, and they always want to keep on sliding down that slope.
The slippery slope implies that it's some kind of accident.
They're dragging us kicking and screaming into a ditch.
Slippery slope implies that allowing the change will mean sliding further and further in the same direction. Intent does not matter.
This is a slippery slope because every time they say something has a limited scope they just keep increasing the scope.
Everyone knows what their end game really is.
Yeah, it was caught on audio pretty clearly lol. These ~~people~~ things are fucking horrendous.
We already have slavery and it's working quite nicely. We just renamed them "illegal immigrants".
I think people get hung up thinking slaves were cost-free to the slaveholders. Of course they weren't! Just like any livestock, you gotta feed and shelter them, breed them, take care of the offspring until they become productive, etc.
The current slave system is brilliant! Pay 'em some change, so no one can call them slaves, and let them figure out all the items above. If anyone comes along and says maybe we should provide... STFU socialist! You trying to take MY money and give it to people breaking the law?!
It gets better! Now we can use fear of these people to get votes, keep in power. (Fuck it, I'm exhausted, you all know where I'm going with this.)
This is a stunningly ignorant take.
Being a modern so-called "wage slave" sucks, no doubt. But equating it to actual, literal slavery belittles what those people actually went through to a disgusting degree. No one today can whip you if they feel like it. No one today can separate you from your spouse and children, selling them to some random asshole two states over, never to be seen again. If you decided to try to make it on your own and move, no one can sue to have you brought back to your workplace in a cage. If you break your leg, no one can shoot you in the head like you're a useless animal.
The closest thing to slaves we have today are convicts. There's a whole different discussion to be had there about how immoral it is to use prison as a punishment instead of rehabilitation, allowing a court to take away someone's rights, exploiting time behind bars for labor, the incentive that provides for pronouncing people guilty, and removing felons' rights to vote. But poor wage workers are NOT slaves.
A year or so back I heard a trans activist on a podcast saying that the “protect kids” rhetoric was bullshit and all the bans on providing gender affirming care to trans kids was a foot in the door to ban it for all trans people.
Now we just need the leaked audio of republicans talking about banning birth control for the awfulness hat trick.
Politicians saying "Protecting the kids" is usually a trigger phrase for some bullshit
Like 99.9999% of the time.
I'd honestly like to know what they're protecting kids from.
What the kids really need to be protected from is these hateful motherfuckers. We need to put the lot of them in a rocket and fire it into the next sun over. Not our sun, that's still too close to home.
Stopping ADULTS from receiving Life Saving Healthcare is EXACTLY how we Save The Children!
You're joking, but they literally believe that.
They believe all trans folk are pedophile groomers that are brainwashing children into becoming trans by sneaking into bathrooms and school sports teams, so they want to kill us to Save The Children.
Meanwhile… actual pedos are running rampant and just walking into the front door of locker rooms…
Jim Jordan, I’m looking at you.
Even the usage of the term "endgame" implies an almost sportsman like perspective on the legal battle for transgender rights, devoid of any acknowledgment that transgender people have humanity and that their actions will have dire consequences for real people. A literal battle plan for how to dispose of us. No vague language, no hand waving away accusations of genocidal intent. Point blank, openly asking, "How do we get rid of trans people for good?"
They refuse to acknowledge that trans people, that any trans person, benefits from acceptance and support and freedom to be themselves. In their ideal world, first they'll deny our healthcare, deny our legal rights and protections from violence and discrimination, they'll replace mental health care facilities with religious conversion therapy camps, and when all is said and done and trans people continue to exist in any shape or form they'll resort to incarceration and disposal. They'll make laws enforcing dress codes based on assigned gender and make it illegal to change your name to one not approved for your assigned sex. This is what they've been saying they want for years. If they could do this, they would without a second thought.
We're the basis of the entirety of the post pandemic Christian conservatism movement. None of these people would even have jobs without us to scream about during the two minutes hate.
The Nazis started with Transexuals and Homosexuals. The Jewish people just outnumbered the Transexuals and Homosexuals by several factors.
Oh, and the homeless were the third group, again outnumbered by a couple factors by Jewish people.
Important why the reference is valid as well, is that endgame is rhetorically near 'Endlösung' (ultimate solution) and 'Endsieg' (ultimate victory), meaning complete genocide as 'solution' to 'the problem of the jews (existence)' ( 'Judenfrage' ) and world domination as solution to the growing extremes of the Second World War.
Please don't use 'Endlösung', 'Endsieg' and 'Judenfrage' in casual speech.
Americans don't like talking about how Nazis came to power. We literally remove the first line from Martin Niemöller's "First they came for" quote from school textbooks because it sympathizes with Socialism.
Even the usage of the term “endgame” implies an almost sportsman like perspective on the legal battle for transgender rights
It could be a movie reference tho. You know that movie where someone with all the power snapped his fingers and a bunch of people just disappeared?
At any rate it's never good to hear about fascists discussing plans that have an endgame.
Imagine being so insistent on targeting what amounts to 1% of the population.
This shows how little they care about governing and how much they care about pushing their agenda.
Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.
-Francis Wilhoit
They are exercising the out group to appease their base, nothing more. When they can't target trans people anymore, they will move on to someone else.
This is a red herring lie to induce fear in homophobic followers. It is little different from the lies to that crime is rising, and that black/Latino/immigrant/Antifa crime is skyrocketing. Do not take my word for it. Look at actual crime statistics. Republicans are both being lied to, and spreading those same lies.
The common thread is Republicans are dividing our country by promoting fear, distrust, and rage through their lies.
That's basically the game, ruin everything, and blame whichever minority it's cool to hate this month for the ruin
Representative Shriver asked, "In terms of endgame, why are we allowing these practices for anyone?"
Because trans people doing this for themselves to themselves doesn't hurt or harm you in any way whatsoever.
"If we are going to stop this for anyone under 18, why not apply it for anyone over 18?"
First, I don't think it should be banned for under 18. However for those over 18 are adults that are able to make their own choices.
It's harmful across the board, and that's something we need to take into consideration in terms of the endgame."
How is it harmful? Even empty conservative arguments about homosexuality being bad in the bible don't apply to trans people. Conservatives only apparent reason for harming trans people is you don't like it. If that's the bar, then whats to stop others from banning conservatism itself because there are lots of people that don't like it?
How is it harmful? Even empty conservative arguments about homosexuality being bad in the bible don't apply to trans people.
That's the fun part, as far as they're concerned, they do. To them, someone who's trans is still the same as their assigned birth gender. So mtf trans is still male to them. Therefore, it is gay for a man to have sex with a trans women and can get you damned to hell. It's why "trap" went from referring to femboys with sexuality conversion fetishes to referring to trans people. Many of them literally believe it's an attempt to "trap" straight men into being gay. Go even further right, and you start running into people who believe trans people are literally agents of Satan sent to claim the souls of good, straight Christian men.
Soooo.... Yeah. That's why evangelical christians tend to lose their shit about trans people.
If we are going to stop this for anyone under 18, why not apply it for anyone over 18? It's harmful across the board, and that's something we need to take into consideration in terms of the endgame."
Wow.
Representative Click then responded, "That's a very smart thought there. I think what we know legislatively is we have to take small bites.”
This is why they call everything a slippery slope. Projection.
Yeah I fully expect this to become normal for red states.
Probably gonna kill myself lol
Michigan isn't red. And don't fucking kill yourself. I'm an old cis white dude, and if I can help fight for your rights, the least you can do is stick around to enjoy them, right?
I'm terrible at pep talks but just don't fucking kill yourself. There is beauty in the world you have yet to experience, and you make the world a more wondrous and beautiful place just by existing.
I'm in Iowa and that's a red state these days. If they want to kill me I won't go quietly, but I'd definitely rather die than detransition.
There are other options. They might involve not staying in Iowa, but hell suicide means leaving Iowa, too, so you might as well try another state.
Probably gonna kill myself lol
I've said it before and I'll say it again: never kill yourself for something that's somebody else's fault.
That’s what they want. Live your life to the fullest just to spite these motherfuckers.
If I could hug you over the internet I would. Unfortunately that's of exactly no help.
Imagine dedicating your life to being an asshole. If, IF, you're a gigantic, seeping, festering asshole, you can get an anchor spot on Fox.
it must be nice having a party that just always manages to force through all the shit you want no matter the odds
it's so awesome that we still haven't fixed roe. like, ridiculous that that night the president didn't write something saying 'actually it's legal everywhere executive order fuck you'. i don't care if that's not how it works!! he's the president!! that's how 40% of people think it works anyway!!
Obviously. This was apparent from the start.
Oh man, I hope they do! What am I going to do with myself in the meantime? Just knowing that there's a slight chance that someone might remove my penis and replace it with a vagina and then give me boobs... It's too much for me. We must prevent anyone from trying! That way they won't do it to me!
Actually, what about two penises? That's like double macho! Ok let's hope they block male to female and female to male... But male to really macho male, that's gotta stay!
Let's see if the population complains about exceptions such as removal due to cancer and such. Maybe toss the doctors in jail for removing boobs that have cancer? And specifically the law should say boobs because that's more funny. And cruel. We are Republicans! God damn it! In God damn we truss.... well it's a sort of truss, it's a cross ❌ truss!
Yes it's all sarcasm and confusing non language. It makes my brains happy.
Yep just keep on stripping life away from those of us with firearms until we have nothing to lose. You think people who had surgery and totally altered their physical appearance can just "go back" to their birth gender? Nah fam. What you're doing is backing these people into an inescapable corner who are armed and have nothing left. Let me know how that works out for ya.
What a shock.
Michigan Republicans are extra evil and authoritarian. Thankfully they don't control the legislature anymore. Or the state Supreme Court. Or the Governorship.
Isn't this literally apart of Nikki Hailey's campaign?
And if this goes as well as their war on Gay Marriage, it ends when a Right Wing Leaning Supreme Court gives us Trans-Inclusive Single Payer Healthcare and then they go after the next "Freak of the Week", probably furries since New Hampshire's already making legislation agianst them.
In other news, the color blue is blue. The party of hate surprised no one.