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A Taliban official says women lose value if their faces are visible to men in public, and that the only way to wear the hijab, or the Islamic headscarf, is if the face is hidden

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[–] utopianfiat@lemmy.world 110 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The Taliban is what happens when you let incels govern

[–] buckykat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The Taliban is what happens when the US government funds and arms a right wing religious militia

[–] utopianfiat@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

It's not accurate to conflate the Mujahideen and the Taliban. In fact, the Taliban is in open conflict with a lot of former Mujahideen.

[–] Late2TheParty@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The Taliban predates US government intervention. Kindly STFU.

The Taliban came to power after the Russian invasion of Afghanistan, you dollard!

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[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Taliban really do view women as property, not human.

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[–] Decimit@lemm.ee 30 points 2 years ago

Cunts like this lose value every time they talk.

[–] JustAManOnAToilet@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago

Are we talking a per pore basis or more like a per square inch of skin thing? Does this mean women with larger faces are more valuable so long as a higher proportion of face is covered vs uncovered? I'm just trying to understand their obviously completely logical and rational point of view here.

[–] o0joshua0o@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Good point. The last thing you want is a woman whose face has been used up by being looked at a bunch of times.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If another man jacks of thinking about your wife, the sex with her is slightly less satisfying. /s

Fuck these small-minded fucks.

[–] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago

Religion impeded their evolution somewhere between monkey and when the started walking on two feet.

[–] Late2TheParty@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

IDKY that hit hard, but DAMN that was funny to me tonight!

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Every single one of these Taliban men was birthed by a woman, nursed by one, and mostly raised by one.

Women, if you raise your son's to be Muslim they will treat your daughter's like this. Tell them that there is no Allah, tell them that Abdul and Mohammad were wicked, tell them that the Imam is a shaman. Tell them the truth before it's too late.

[–] AlternActive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hi know good muslim people, so it's not just that.

That said, plenty of issues come down to religion in general, with a few exceptions here and there.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (3 children)

It is amazing to me how different the views are. One on side you got Westerner apologists whose knowledge of Islam is what they half remember from a video they saw on YouTube ten years ago on the other hand you have the Taliban. Both sides claim to know what real Islam is about. Well sorry not sorry I am going to believe the people who live with the Koran vs you.

You know good Muslims? I do as well. Does that make the tenents of Islam good? I don't think so. Does that make them true? Nope. All you can really say is that you know people who aren't following their own religion and as a result they are good people.

[–] name_NULL111653@pawb.social 6 points 2 years ago

Correct, and the same for Christianity. The doctrines are really quite similar in their treatment of minorities. The only difference in that respect is that one doctrine says to just kill them, and the other says to exile and shun them (but stoning for some), or torment them mentally and emotionally until they abandon their beliefs and conform to the doctrine of the church.

[–] match@pawb.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The tenets of Islam are pretty good tho - pray a lot every day, give money to the poor, do a pilgrimage - it's the historic and contemporary leadership, culture, violence, and precedence that are bad

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Praying is talking to yourself because there is no god to hear it.

[–] match@pawb.social 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Sure, but meditation is good

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It has some medical benefits yes. As does a small walk around the block.

[–] match@pawb.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I would love a religion that mandates 5 daily walks

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Ask and ye shall receive

[–] Lifebandit666@feddit.uk 1 points 2 years ago

Praying isn't Meditating, it's Praying.

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[–] ZombieZookeeper@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So, they subscribe to the Andrew Tate philosophy.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Honestly, this isn’t that far off

[–] LSNLDN@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 years ago

Didn’t he literally convert

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

Didn't the loser convert to islam a while ago?

[–] match@pawb.social 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

women should have power, not value

[–] ShunkW@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's ok for people to have value, but that value shouldn't only be their appearance. And men have value too. This guy has negative value to the world.

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 5 points 2 years ago

Depends what you mean by value... the Taliban isn't talking about personal virtue, they're talking about women as products.

[–] Water1053@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

"I kinda like mysterious women."

"I totally agree! They totally lose value if other people can see their face in public."

"Wait what? No, not like that..."

[–] Stinkywinks@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Welcome to islam. Maybe start teaching science and logic rather than religion and you'll have less nut bags.

[–] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

If they have any books left that is. They probably used them to warm themselves during winter.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How much value is a nose? Just a nose? Like in USD.

[–] jarfil@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

No idea in USD, but it must be at least half a goat, maybe even a whole one.

I'd say the 7th century wants its values back but on the other hand, no, it probably doesn't.

[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

When you’re a worthless, ignorant, fundamentalist, once dickhead- you’ll say anything to make it look like you have any kind of value at all. If hell was real, these guys would fucking rot there.

Women depreciation is worse than on Italian sports cars :-(

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

If I see this guy, I see this is more appropriate with men than women...

[–] TheProtagonist@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Sounds like if they would get less cows for them when selling them on a market, after their face was revealed.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

When it comes to losing worth for showing ones face, the guy in the picture should be the first to wear a sack over his head. With most of his taliban cronies following suit.

[–] correcthorsedickbatterystaple@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

i [nobody's official] say taliban ~~lose~~ gain value if their dead faces are visible in public