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So, this is kinda weird, but general colors didn't have names for a long time. Like in Greek texts by Homer he describes the water color as dark wine color because the name "blue" wasn't a word. So it's possible when they named a "red onion" purple wasn't a color and considered a shade of red.
Also as others have said purple was the color of royalty and they didn't want an association.
It's kind of wild when you learn that words for blue are relatively new in human language.
In Japanese it’s the reverse; ‘blue’ is used for blue and green; designating green as the different color is relatively recent for them
Huh, so Kentucky isn't the only place with bluegrass
I started thinking that it kind of makes sense as blue is not a common naturally occurring color and then I remembered the sky.
Yeah, that's the part I have trouble with. Leaves are green, the sky is blue. They are very different colours. It's not ambiguous like whether teal or turquoise is green or blue (I could easily see either of those being labelled as either blue or green), or different shades of the same colour like fuscia or maroon. They are different primary colours of light.
It's just weird to me that two very common every day colours that don't look anything alike wouldn't get distinct names. I understand that the blue photoreceptors we have are the newest ones and are less sensitive than the red and green ones, but I wouldn't have figured that our evolution of it to the point where we see what we currently see (if you aren't colour blind) would have been that recent. I expected hundreds of thousands of years, not tens of thousands or just thousands, which is what it would need to be to explain cultures that didn't differentiate between the two until recently.
There are blue flowers
You mean those green flowers?
-ancient Greek guy (probably)
From what I know, it has to do with the word red covering the purple part of the spectrum long ago, and the "need" for the word purple came out later but purple things that were named red didn't get renamed.
You can look at japanese right now and 青い covers both blue and green, with a relatively recent addition of 緑 to cover only green (thus possibly pushing 青い in the future to be only blue, who knows)
Similarly, the red fox is clearly orange, but English speakers were exposed to that species of fox before developing a word for that specific color. For bonus linguistical oddities, 'orange' was used for the fruit before it was used for the color.
Or the red squirrel, which is brown.
And red hair.
And the fruit's name is different from other countries' names for it because "a naranj" was misheard as "an orange" and it stuck. Yellow-red wasn't much adopted, though it did exist. Such is language, what a fun collective hallucination.
Yes, the word for greenery/foliage, 青葉, translates to "blue leaves"
Also the green traffic light is called blue
Well whys it called Shepherds Pie when it doesnt contain shepherds, or Cottage Pie when its nothing to do with cottages or cottagimg? How about that one...checkmate!!!
I already knew this about colors (it's also why "redheads" have orange hair) but I recently dug more into how the musical spectrum and how tones are defined is very similar in it's cultural variance. Another thing is how the cardinal directions are divided radially and how time is counted. Shit counting bases even, most of the imperial measurements are based on either base 12 or base 16 math.
Wild to think that something you grew up with as a fundamental fact of the world might actually be super culturally subjective.
Because they are only purple on the inside. Do you think apples are white? Or bananas?
in hungarian it's purple onion, you just choose the wrong language :)
At least we aren't hungary all the time
also, take my upvote
in portuguese too
There's a joke in Bulgarian somewhat related to that. What's commonly referred to as a prune plum we call something that roughly translates to "blue plum". The joke goes something like this:
-- Dad, what's this?
-- It's a blue plum.
-- Why is it red?
-- Because it's green.
Language is weird, but it's ironic that our use of it makes it so.
It wanted to be associated with the proletariat not the ruling class.
why do we call green grapes white
Or purple grapes red?
(I'm guessing due to the type of wine they make)
Don't even get me started on 'white' people.
Meanwhile stupid USians subscribe to the literal 19th-century ‘scientific racism’ theory that has ‘Caucasian people’ as something other than deeply tan skin that Caucasian people actually have.
What really gets me is that the compounds responsible for this hue in food are called "anthocyanins" which means "blue flower." I can't even.
In Spanish we actually call them "cebolla morada" that means purple onion :D
I’m bilingual and I always forget which language calls it which, so I get confused looks from everyone.
We call them purple in Spanish... English has brain damage as per usual.
Jess and Rob on Words Unraveled talk about color word origins, and their discussion is illuminating about the cultural variance in perception of color. Now I am at peace with all the seemingly weird color names for things.
For a quicker tour, Vox talks about the order that languages fill in color words as cultures begin to refine their distinction.
The skin of red onions is reddish to purple. The flesh is purple much like shallots. But the skin sets them apart.
I'm crying
The inside is purple, but the outside is red, especially if it's dry.
I spent way too much time sitting in the backseat looking out the window on long family drives wondering why the fuck they kept referring to the orange cheddar cheese as "yellow" cheese. Still kind of annoys me today after decades of getting older and settling down a bit.
