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[–] lordziv@lemmy.nz 3 points 40 minutes ago (1 children)
[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 1 points 12 minutes ago

I was never with 'it' and I never cared to be.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 12 points 8 hours ago

I still think of Goon as a hockey enforcer. As a Canadian, i'm obligated to.

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] CalypsoGirl@lemmy.today 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

With their hands & genitals out of frame, those two goons might actually be gooning.

[–] quarkquasar@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

"I just wish she wouldn't talk so much."

"That's like, misogynistic as heck, man!"

"It just ruins the session!"

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 4 points 7 hours ago

Goon literally started out as the big nosed henchmen of the sea hag in the Popeye comic strip in the 1930s. It got applied to refer to anti-union fighters very quickly before it became a general purpose word meaning low-level henchman.

[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 hours ago
[–] Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

As stupid as it was, "Fap," made sense.

[–] CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world 1 points 25 minutes ago

Isn’t it an onomatopoeia? It’s based on the sound “fap fap fap”

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

What's wrong with jackin' it?

[–] Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Or jerkin' the gherkin 😀

[–] HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com 1 points 8 hours ago

Or crankin' the hog?

[–] SalamiDommie@lemmus.org 3 points 9 hours ago

It is crazy how words change meaning. Surprising that low level mafia muscle was a Goon and now it somehow relates to the euphoria one experiences eating Fast Food Chinese crab rangoons.

While I love going at a china buffet as much as the next fella - I don't understand how it became associated with mob henchmen.

[–] DEJED@feddit.org 4 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Do you all remember the movie “The Goonies”? Yeah… so many levels of wrong with this new definition when applied to that movie

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

So don't apply it to that movie.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

We really need to learn to not apply modern culture and standards backwards.

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 1 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I dunno. Revenge Of The Nerds had that rape scene played for laughs.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

There are old reviews calling that scene out when the movie was new.

edit: I'm looking for the review, but there's so many modern reviews, that finding a scanned new paper article from 1984 is difficult.

Another example of people knowing Revenge of the Nerds ain't right was Real Genius. The creative crew was hired by the studio to make their own Revenge of the Nerds, but they hated that movie and made a fixed version.

There's some interview with the director of Revenge of the Nerds who defended the rapist as a "complex character." Utter nonsense. The real concern with all this how obviously fine Hollywood was and still is with rape. What they considered normal seeped into the media they produced and normalized it to the masses watching it.

On Goonies, the name is fine and isn't problematic. I saw Inside Job take a swipe at it for how they treated Sloth, but he was sympathetic and his abusers were his family, the villains. The two things that don't age too well the was the Japanese People Love Gadgets, which considering it was only the one kid and his father, isn't that bad. It's pretty reasonable for a son to have the same hobby as his father and tech otakus are a thing. The second is the body shaming the Chunk character, which when recording the scene, made the director so uncomfortable, he paid for a gym membership for the kid. There's a lot worse movies from the 80s to watch.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 2 points 7 hours ago

What's funny about revenge of the nerds is that no one on set, even the girls, thought anything of that plot point at all at the time. It wasn't until the 2010s that the backlash against it for that scene became a major sticking point.

Not to say it was ever acceptable to impersonate someone else to have sex with a girl. That is rape by deception, but movies did have different standards at the time. For example a lot of movies had scenes were children were put in fairly awkward situations that would be scandalous today but at that time the whole 'children pretending to be adults' wasn't seen as a big deal.

The nostalgia critic in his review of The Chipmunks movie (the 80s one) did bring up that point to explain the mentality behind those scenes at the time.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 14 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

"Gimme the good old days when a pair of boobs were a couple of dumb guys." - Sheriff Buford T. Justice

Edited to fix attribution. I was sure it was Dangerfield, but DDG says otherwise.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 3 points 7 hours ago

Boob or booby to mean stupid still lives on in boobytrap.

[–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

And there was a time that gay meant happy and a removed was a piece of fire wood. Though the Brits, in their usual word butchery, turned that into fag for cigarette.

Languages change and morph. They are living things. And despite the French's best effort to try and prevent it.

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Did you self-censor? It says "removed" in italics. I don't know what a piece of fire wood could be called to be so offensive to self-censor

[–] ToxicWaste@lemmy.cafe 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

fagot faggot

just checking whether it shows up if i type it. all of bluewing@lemmy.world's messages just say removed...

yep seems to work. maybe bluewings client

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

It shows as removed to me still. Maybe not for you. Maybe my instance is censoring it.

[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

A fagot is a bundle of sticks or firewood, pronounced the same as the slur.

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[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

F@g for cigarette is still used in the UK. So much so that the BBC once used it in the 2010s to refer to cigarettes in a news report.

[–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

That is true. Can't argue that. But isn't slowly fading away as generations pass?

[–] GiveOver@feddit.uk 4 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

We used it to mean cigarette before yanks turned it into a slur. You're the butchers here!

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[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

makes languages sound kinda gay, all that morphing and changing.

next you'll be telling me they have formal versions and informal versions too

[–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Why yes, yes they do. And they best part is, nobody knows why.

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