Db admin, cloud admin, printers, more for $110k. : programmer

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 126 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

A German three letter agency had a similar ad. They were looking for someone who was proficient in encryption, hacking, protocols on Windows, Mac and Linux, and a few other things in that area. Experienced both in programming and leadership. And as a cherry on the top, this person would have to have knowledge about all the legal aspects of all of this, too.

All for a midrange bureaucrat salary. A security expert commented on this something like "if i had someone with that kind of skill set and experience, I would hire him out for a daily fee about as high as their offered monthly salary."

[–] tty5@lemmy.world 54 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Many years ago I got offered 20% over minimum wage to manage, among other things, all email servers of a large banking association representing >90% of a national market.

It was less than what a Tesco cashier was making in the area.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

When I was a student, I already had my Novell admin certificate, so it got some jobs on the side. Someone pointed me to a law firm where the owner wanted their PCs networked. We met, he showed me the list of hardware he wanted to buy - everything top notch, big server, new PCs with all bells, whistles and gongs back then, 19in rack for all the necessities, etc. That list was an offer from an expensive office outfitter he knew.

He "just" needed someone to install the stuff. I could easily have done that, but all he offered was a kind of internship. Oh what I could learn from working with top of the pop equipment! I told him I was here because it already knew everything that was needed. He then offered me that I could take the old PCs as "compensation".

I left, and warned others not to waste time with that idiot.

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[–] recklessengagement@lemmy.world 108 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Wait this is just my current job but with double the pay...

fuck I gotta get a new job

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 29 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, you need a new job. This is also my current job for not enough pay. You're getting shafted.

With that being said, this isn't really 3 jobs like the post implies. If you've worked with data integrations before, you know how SQL, APIs and cloud solutions interact.

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[–] Hotzilla@sopuli.xyz 62 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Am I crazy that those sound reasonable IT manager level things? If company size is 100-200 endpoints, the IT manager should understand all of these, if he/she doesn't, I would not want to work at that IT team

[–] xylol@leminal.space 28 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

It manager level for entry level pay

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 21 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Have you seen pay these days? Where are you getting 110k entry level?

[–] BlaestEgnen@feddit.dk 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If it's an onsite position, it depends on living costs.

Some people are claiming 3k for rent is the minimum in the area. Just north of Beverly Hills.

That's half the salary, just for a studio apartment. Then there's another chunk for taxes and they're left with 1-2k for general expenses and living life.

Salaries isn't a simple thing you can move from one area to another

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[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

I've worked at places with <50 people where the 2 IT people had "manager" titles, but they were just "the IT people" in practice - one handled user stuff, the other was focused on the client-facing infrastructure.

Our lone HR person was also the "HR manager", we had a single "accounting manager", and a couple more like that. Some departments ended up expanding and the "managers" did end up with direct reports, but that's kinda just how small businesses work, this posting sounds a lot like that.

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[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

There’s not enough hours in day to do all those tasks that this will entail. You’ll constantly be dragged between different domains nd have no time to focus on anything

Source: I’ve done this job before. Company wasn’t even big either. Just 30 people or so

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[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You're not crazy, it's just that posts like this are generally tribal. Nobody here actually knows what the day-to-day of that job is, they just want a pretext to vent about their own experiences of being asked to do work that they didn't want to do.

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[–] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

P1: Printer not working again!

P2: Ah I'll go tell that programmer guy

That company, probably

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 43 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Well it doesn't say you have to do any of them well.

[–] freeman@sh.itjust.works 29 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well you must have excellent communication skills.

For the actual IT stuff, they don't really care.

[–] nebeker@programming.dev 11 points 3 weeks ago

That one’s the dealbreaker. If you do all that stuff, you only have time for a grunt or two from behind your 17 inch TFT monitor.

[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 12 points 3 weeks ago

If its a small company you are going to have people split between multiple things as it doesn't make financial sense to have 3 specialists.

Where I work is under 30 people, we don't have a HR department or even a HR role. HR is done by someone who also has other roles to fill.

[–] nightwatch_admin@lemmy.world 39 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You won’t get away with 100k if printer issues are included.. your soul and those of the other employees would be a start.

[–] cabillaud@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

God, I hate printers.

[–] unitedwithme@lemmy.today 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't work with me, I manage 60+ across 2 sites with 3 separate-function print servers.

Anyone else here still manage a fleet of dot matrix??? We've got about a dozen left 😅

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[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 36 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

anything to do with printers better be 200k or higher

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[–] razzazzika@lemmy.zip 35 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Eh I had a job like this. Was for a small company. If that was a large corp id say fuck no but if small company? Its fine.

[–] Abyssian@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

Exactly. Company makes doors, by hand. 10 employees total and 2 computers. Easiest job you've ever had and you actually feel guilty every time they pay you for the first few months.

[–] tabarnaski@sh.itjust.works 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Typical of a 20-30 people company where everyone has to do different things.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Our client is a large Law Firm in Los Angeles (Sherman Oaks Area) that is looking to hire a talented IT Manager. They have an excellent culture and do a great job at retaining their staff long-term. This person MUST live in LA and be willing to be on site!!

Though it's not an IT company so their IT department may very well be like 2 or 3 people

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[–] pixxelkick@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

That looks closer to a 220~260k salary job posting.

100~110k in LA area is entry level IT.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 38 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

in the rest of the world that is basically a three-job salary.

[–] communism@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Yeah I was gonna say. I didn't understand what people were complaining about, that's loads of money to me. I know stuff's more expensive in the US but it's not that much more expensive that 100k isn't an insane amount of money to live off.

[–] chris@l.roofo.cc 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You have to have so much more reserves in the US because of the broken health care system, and the car dependence. I live in Germany and my wife and I were thinking about how much more we'd need to save and we found out that we didn't need that much. Healthcare is basically free, we don't have a car, we had enough for a new set of appliances and months of rent. All that with about a half of that salary. But in the US you can easily go broke with that amount of money if you get sick or have car troubles. Also depending on the state poor job security.

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[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 3 weeks ago

Honestly, this is what we currently have at our mid sized company. We get paid dogshit, nobody has a dedicated position we're just all "IT" and we do everything to keep shit running

[–] derry@midwest.social 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Meanwhile CEO makes 3mil a year while planning to ~~sell~~ merge the company with another one and get the golden parachute.

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[–] CleanPizza@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This is basically my current job. Almost the same pay (120k) in the Seattle area.

I work 50-70 hours a week

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

You’re worth $200k in that HCOL area.

[–] RedstoneValley@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Would be an OK salary for most of Europe. Most countries here have relatively solid health care insurance, affordable education and a pension fund included, so that some of the biggest costs of living in the US don't even make a dent in the salary.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm in Sweden, this would be an amazing salary. I make maybe 40% of that, and I'm pretty well paid.

[–] No_Ones_Slick_Like_Gaston@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

But you have a functional social safety net, insurance and retirement covered with your taxes. We don't and is horribly expensive to fork $24K a year to have access to health with a $7K deductible while thinking that if you get fired the equivalent of UB pay is $226/wk after you present substantiation to the state that you're trying to get work. On top of that insurance is tied to employment and that heavily influences work mobility and care as if anyone gets anything catastrophic loses the job, the insurance and all your savings.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

But you have a functional social safety net

I grew up in poverty, I know what this social safety net looked like 20 years ago. It's been hollowed out by a decade of alt-right governance since. They've pushed the non-white welfare king/queen narrative hard.

Living on subsistence minimum isn't really a comfortable life. You have to constantly apply for it and get scrutinised, and sometimes you get automatically denied because the government has applied a quota that försäkringskassan has to fill; it's luck of the draw.

It's certainly not something I'd ever view as a nice stress-free fallback to recover from, it's a full-time job in and of itself, and that's not counting the critique you have to put up with from society for using the system as it is intended.

insurance and retirement covered with your taxes.

Ish. Current retirees are covered by current taxpayers. My retirement will be covered by future taxpayers. This has lead to the retirement age being bumped up a couple of times the past few years, because there's not enough taxes coming in to cover retirement. I don't expect to ever actually retire.

The average pension income currently is 16400 crowns a month before taxes. My rent is 8.4k and it goes up with several hundred a year. Pensions generally remain fairly static.

By insurance I guess you mean healthcare. This is largely true, we have a high-cost protection, and that includes visits so if you buy enough meds or visit the doctors enough each year, the high cost protection kicks in, it's currently at approximately 3000 crowns.

My a-kassa isn't free, nor is it tax funded. I personally pay for that on a monthly basis. It's also tied to you looking for work.

There are upsides and downsides to everything. Things get bad here, too.

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[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 3 weeks ago

I worked a short stint as a network administrator for a company I did not like at all. I figured it'd be a foot in the door, but boy was I wrong. I didn't last 6 months, I was doing work of a network tech, network admin, security tech for door locks and cameras, a custodian, and general computer tech in all that. It was a VASTLY underpaid position for the work.

[–] TomMasz@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

It’s three jobs on a slow day.

[–] makeshift0546@lemmy.today 15 points 3 weeks ago

I don't give a shit about the broadness. I'll do whatever they want for my salary . 100k though is 50k short of I'm being generous.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 15 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Found the listing for anyone curious about the company. It's a recruitment company recruiting for a law firm.

https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/information-technology-manager-at-bookman-consulting-4453231245

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[–] dubs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 3 weeks ago

As a system administrator, I've done all of these to some extent. But at that pay range, it better be part-time.

[–] Bakkoda@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That shit would be 45-60k here and it infuriates me.

[–] Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

Sounds like my job at a small full-house IT company. We did anything IT related the customer wanted. We got paid $1.2k by a rich guy to fix his son's Roblox account once.

[–] Loce@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I've worked there, for not nearly that amount of money :(

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