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[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 150 points 3 weeks ago (42 children)

People who live longer:

People who drink a glass of wine every night.

People who buy organic and cook whole foods at home.

People who spend 30+ minutes a day being activr/at the gym.

People who get 9+ hours of sleep every night.

People who have less chronic stress.

People who get regular checkups/screenings at the doctor.

So... rich people that have the time and can afford to do all of those things or have them done for them.

[–] Devial@lemmy.world 49 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The glass of wine is likely due to a selection bias in Tea Total people. Most people who are completely sober, are so either because they are recovering alcoholics, or have other health issues.

Most people who are healthy and have no prior alcoholism issues drink at least occasionaly, which introduces a selection bias favouring people with health issues as strict non drinkers, which causes not drinking at all to be correlated with worse health than drinking occasionally.

[–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Idk... a lot of gen Z people I know just don't drink at all

[–] tmyakal@infosec.pub 62 points 3 weeks ago (17 children)

OP is referring to the j-curve historically seen in studies about drinking. Because researchers didn't control for people who stopped drinking after years of abuse or people who couldn't drink because of other health issues, it looked like having 0 drinks per day led to worse health outcomes than 1-2 drinks per day. Because of that, many health organizations spent decades telling people that 1-2 drinks per day was better for you than 0 drinks per day.

Someone finally controlled for those variables a few years ago, and the j-curve vanished. Most health organizations now say they're is no amount of alcohol that is safe to consume.

So it's got nothing to do with Gen Z drinking habit specifically, and the science has been corrected since. But a lot of people still internalized and parrot the "1-2 drinks is healthy" thing.

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[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah but these (usually flawed) studies that have wormed their way into the public consciousness were done long before gen z was drinking age. From up-to-date information it's pretty clear that any amount of any kind of alcohol is quite bad for you. Obviously increasing with quantity.

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[–] psud@aussie.zone 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That's teetotal, nothing to do with the nice hot cuppa

Also last time I saw teetotalers being less healthy than occasional drinkers was decades ago before never drinking became normal among the youth as they came of age

Back then the only reason to not drink was to treat alcoholism or a serious problem. Now people abstain because their friends do

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[–] BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 45 points 3 weeks ago

And are getting exercise, eating healthy, etc.

[–] gilesroberts@feddit.uk 39 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

In the UK where everyone has decent basic health care on average you live 2 years shorter if you own a horse. It's worse than riding a motorcycle (1 year shorter). It turns out that owning a big animal that will kick you if you look at it funny or throw you off if it gets startled by a packet of crisps in the road isn't that great for your health.

[–] cabillaud@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I always thought horses could murder someone because that's their idea of a good joke.

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[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago

We need a comprehensive study that compares health outcomes from getting your face kicked in, between the US and the UK.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 28 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

You don’t typically have a horse without money.

[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 55 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Typically all horses have no money. What would a horse even do with it anyway. And they don't even have pockets to put in it.

[–] ickplant@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 16 points 3 weeks ago

Tweed on a steed!

[–] Skipcast@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

What about a horse with no name?

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[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

horse people love to tell you how they have no money because of their horses though

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[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 24 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Kind of like all the sugar substitute correlation “studies” that keep saying sugar substitutes cause the same diseases that being obese cause. Hmmm, I wonder who typically consumes sugar substitutes…

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 8 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Flip side of the studies that show people that eat almonds as a snack live longer.

Almonds are fucking expensive, yo. If you're snacking on almonds, you're doing OK already.

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[–] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Most horse people I know (me included) are BROKE because we choose to have horse(s) when we really shouldn't. Bad financial decisions for sure, but most horse people have a passion for the creatures and don't let things like finances get in the way.

There have been days where I've skipped meals in order to buy my horse her supplements. Not many days, but a couple. My bond with horses is what keeps me going when I'm at my lowest, so I refuse to give them up. My mom and grandma will occasionally sneak me a few bucks to help because they're almost as invested in my horse as I am.

Here's the horse tax:

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[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 18 points 3 weeks ago

Also, if you own horses, you're probably going out to take care of them on a daily basis, which means you get at least a little bit of mild exercise every day. That would help a lot, compared to people who are entirely sedentary.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 16 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Health care. Not insurance. Care.

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[–] TrumpetX@programming.dev 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

All these comments are great, but the real mystery is:

Why did someone overlay a different font on top of the original graphic rather than just make a whole new graphic? Like, the work is exactly the same, and the rest of us can view sane font placement.

[–] fake@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Original probably said 'correlation' when it should be causation. The correlation is established in the headline.

Apparently someone took that personally.

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[–] ToiletFlushShowerScream@piefed.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Jr researchers are using AI to comb through cancer research datanases and every time they come back with data linking racial minority to worse outcomes or faster tumor progression, and proposals to review genetic differences.

Never does it link that non rich people don't go to a doctor unless it's very bad, and so present at later stages of cancer, and can't afford the better personalized treatments.

The entire world of dog cancer research has recently collapsed not because there aren't researchers invested in the work or that there aren't clinical trials available, it's that dog owners can't afford to even travel to clinical sites for treatment.

It's heartbreaking

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Never does it link that non rich people don’t go to a doctor unless it’s very bad, and so present at later stages of cancer, and can’t afford the better personalized treatments.

Also...

  • Poor people are more likely to work in dangerous industrial jobs that expose them to carcinogens.

  • Poor people are more likely to work outside, where they're exposed to high levels of UV, causing skin cancers.

  • Poor people are more likely to live in less desirable places, which may be located closer to industrial sites that spread carcinogenic waste into the air and water.

  • Poor people are more likely to eat highly processed foods that increase cancer risk.

  • Poor people are more likely to be obese, which increases cancer risk.

  • Poor people are more likely to smoke and/or be exposed to second-hand smoke.

  • Poor people are more likely to have high stress levels, which increases cancer risk.

There's a million different non-genetic reasons why racial minorities (who tend to be poorer) would have higher cancer rates.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Why is the word "causation" photoshopped on? What word was there originally that would have changed the meaning enough to warrant pasting a different word there?

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[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I dunno, I know a lot of people who can somehow only afford a horse. Maybe they are outliers

[–] Codpiece@feddit.uk 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Or maybe they live somewhere with universal health care and don’t need health insurance?

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago

Nah I live in America we don't have healthcare here

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[–] average@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago

In my experience horse people tend to be like motorsports people. Usually it’s a family thing and the basic needs for entry into the hobby are already met by the generational involvement in the activity.

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