Why the fuck is it normal in the US to group together unrelated things… ‘the free healthcare for all bill is loosing support because of the mandatory puppy smashing rider’
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It’s the go to compromise: I’ll add something for you if you vote for this bill.
Now that I’ve seen more bad government, I wish this happened more often. We’ve always done this, it’s not a new thing, but the new approach is having half the government just say no unless it’s exactly what they want. One way got things done in a middle of the road (but ugly) fashion, whereas the new way is just paralysis
I'm of a different mind believing the original policy trying to be passed is so watered down its just cover for the dog shit the opposition wants. Republicans in the past would have happily lined up to hand Ukraine and Isreal money only now have they positioned themselves to say they don't want it.
It's because of the lack of party discipline in the US political system. There's no party whip to bring everyone in line, so bills need to cater to the whims of many individual politicians to get votes rather than being negotiated strictly at the leadership level.
There is. It tends to be the Senate Majority and Minority leaders in the Senate, and the Speaker in the House. Both parts of Congress do have official positions of Whips, but those are mostly secondary leaders. They don't hold executive authority the way a Prime Minister does in a parliamentary system, so they can focus on being the external face of their portion of Congress, and the internal work of whips.
Democrats, for the most part, are all working on the same page. Nancy Pelosi--whatever her other faults--is actually very good at working the mechanisms of Congress to whip votes. Republicans, however, are eating each other in purity purges. If Matt Gaetz had his way, the party would continue these purges until it's only a purified form of Matt Gaetz.
I'm almost nostalgic for the days of horsetrading politics where both parties needed to whip votes instead of things being a given along party lines. It resulted in a lot of shitty deals, but at least things got done.
Cut out Israel's genocide funding and it will be all win.
So a bad thing, a good thing, and a bad thing. And luckily the Republicans in the House are likely to block it, but for the wrong reasons, while also suffering for it politically.
An inverse shit sandwich?
It's cute that you think anyone but Democrats will suffer politically when this fails.
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Think of it as a good thing for one group and for another group and for a third. Overall it has something good for most of us. This is how compromise used to work
I for one am not pleased to get a good thing at the expense of thousands of dead Palestinians or border security that denies the right to asylum because migrants are politically inconvenient. The Republicans held hostage munitions to kill Arabic people (a usually Republican priority) for an inhumane border policy (another Republican party). And Democrats pat themselves on the back for bipartisan negotiation.
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What a shitty government.
While a lot of us don't agree with the current boarder policy Trumps build a wall rhetoric was so divisive. A lot of us agree we should have a boarder and migration/immigration policy is necessary. The absolute dog shit of an idea 'the wall' is causes such a visceral response you would think people wanted to do away boarders all together and build a bridge to europe.
I'm going to be that guy, but it's "border" not "boarder". I feel like a person who uses the word visceral would want to know if they were using the wrong spelling.
Honestly not my first time making that mistake in the last two weeks. Some of us are just dense.
"The wall" is a simplistic approach that easily fits in headlines and slogans.
And is not based in reality if anyone were to spend more than 30 seconds thinking about it.
After seeing somewhat athletic people scale the highest parts in about a minute to show how useless it is, I would agree.
Surprised they managed to squeeze in any civilian aid for Gaza with AIPAC so determined to convince everyone in congress that even literal infants are Hamas supporters.
hmm... yeah that's going nowhere
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