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I ask because I caught myself being a huge hypocrite again.

I'm a millennial and I criticized a Gen Z friend for her constant use of the word 'lowkey.'

I then realized do I not do the same thing? I often say 'sorta' or 'kinda' when I do just mean I did the thing in the same way she uses 'lowkey.'

No, I didn't 'kinda' delete a guy's account at my stupid IT job. I DELETED HIS ACCOUNT! I didn't 'sorta' leave too late for work. I FUCKING LEFT LATE!

So I am a massive fucking hypocrite who needs to just let Gen Z chill and do what the want as I am the same flavor of asshole, but what about you?

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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 points 16 hours ago

Of course I do and I think most people do. Its pretty hard to go without filler words in conversation. You'd need to be well spoken and thoughtful in every conversation to avoid using them.

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

The filler words do carry meaning just not content although using them every time establishes a new baseline. They can be used to convey vibes, to harden, soften or communicate lack of confidence for example.

If you kinda/sorta deleted a person's account, you still deleted the account but you are implicitly saying you didn't mean to for example. Lowkey can be a modifier to mean you don't feel strongly about something.

[–] Noblesavage@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I still use "cool" a lot, but I think its become one of those words that will persist through generations.

It's not really a filler word, but I've been corrected on my use of "just," particularly at my work place. "Just" is often used by some people to minimise the impact of what they're saying intentionally. For example, "I just think we should change the wording in this law." If you take out 'just' (and some of the other words) and say the thing you meant to say - it becomes a far punchier statement, "We should change the wording in this law."

The OP made me think of a poem by Taylor Mali, "Speak With Conviction."

[–] betelplouf@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

I'm french, and it's a geberational thing I guess. People my age often say "genre" (equals "kinda"), and older people find this very annoying (I'm 22)

[–] ironcrotch@aussie.zone 7 points 1 day ago

Take one step back and ask yourself why you criticized your friend to begin with.

[–] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's funny how people will be particular over filler words but not over speaking a shitty language with a grammar that barely makes sense.

[–] MufinMcFlufin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Fixing one's use of filler words is orders of magnitude easier than learning a "better" language. Doubly so for convincing everyone you know to also put in that effort for the same "better" target language.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago

The Title should be "Do You Use Filler Words?" not "Do You Needlessly Use Filler Words?". At least I really, really, really think so. /s

[–] myyass@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Pause Break.

[–] sunsofold@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

There are two primary reasons people use filler words.
One is to maintain possession of the role of 'speaker' in the conversation because, if you stop for a while, someone might think you're done (if it sounded like the end of a thought) or have broken down trying to think of what to say. Spending time in environments where people have high demands for time or competition for attention can make these things worse. The other is social fear or anxiety about how your message will be received, or over one's correctness and certainty. 'I am claiming this thing for myself,' has the same ultimate goal as 'Nah, lowkey f'real, I was kinda maybe thinking of nabbing that,' but the use of the extra 'filler' words and slang is designed to obfuscate the meaning, making it passive agressive, forcing the listener to parse the extra layers of obfuscation before having a chance to object, and leaving a verbal avenue of retreat open if someone does object, allowing them to say, 'No, I said I was thinking about it.' Spending time in environments where one has to deal with openly agressive people can often make people seek out these verbal conflict avoidance techniques.

no, why use many words when few do trick

[–] sit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

uuuhno. (That’s one word.) 🤧

[–] Up_dog@lemmy.world 82 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Why use more word when less word work

[–] queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone 36 points 3 days ago (2 children)

More word sometimes make talk pretty and precise, but sometimes opposite. Words hard :(

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[–] Malica@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago

It can subtly influence meaning

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[–] queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone 67 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Filler words carry meaning, even if they don't have specific definitions in context. Like, "like" has a dictionary definition, but if you use it as, like, a filler word, you aren't using that definition (necessarily), but it still conveys something about how the speaker is thinking. They don't just pop up in speech at random. I like catching them and trying to interpret why speakers insert them where they do.

Like, "lowkey" is ~~usually~~* sometimes used to soften harsh language e.g. "I'm lowkey gonna murder Sarah if she doesn't stop chewing her gum with her mouth open". Kinda how "kinda" works as a filler to tone down whatever is being said. I don't actually want to murder Sarah, I just kinda want to murder her. I don't even know if I would call them "proper filler words" in the same sense that "like" is, since they do have a particular function that "like" as a filler lacks. More research is needed it seems.

For me, I let 'em fly. If I had to deliver a speech I would probably include fewer than I usually use in casual conversation, but I don't hold with the rule that they're strictly to be avoided. I think they're neat.

* edit: I just know how I've heard it used, I have no idea how it's usually used. I'm lowkey not in the lowkey demographic.

[–] Klear@piefed.world 29 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I'm lowkey literally gonna murder Sarah.

[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

“Like” can also be a softener.

“I ate like 20 corn dogs” is different than “I ate 20 corn dogs.”

The former means a larger than standard number of corn dogs, maybe six or seven. The latter means twenty.

It has other practical uses as well.

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[–] neuroneiro@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Do you ~~needlessly~~ use filler words?

[–] FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yes I use needless filler words, but i use them because I need them ;)

Low key is a really egregious one though because it is not designed to be a filler word. The thing about filler words is that every adverb is a filler word, as neuroneiro points out. Using them less makes you sound confident and precise. Sometimes they are useful or necessary. But by definition - a filler word. It is likely our overuse of adverts which trains us to use filler words like sort of, low key, kind of

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

I mean... For real, yeah, I guess, kinda lowkey.

[–] Apeman42@lemmy.world 49 points 3 days ago (2 children)

No, I mean I don't use them needlessly or whatever. I kinda use them to sorta let my thoughts buffer.

[–] LeftReddit2@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean like it's kinda like fuck man like you know like it's kinda sorta like fuck man like fuck you know man like sorta kinda like fuck man like fuck man you know like it's kinda like-

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

The curse-filler version of the rainbow wheel.

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[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I like the extra verbosity. When used in moderation anyway. A little bit of seasoning for my sentences.

[–] FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I rather enjoy the greatly increased verbal verbosity that can be attained. However, I do generally prefer this effect when attained in relative moderation, it must be said. This way i provide only a small, tolerable, amount of verbal seasoning to the sentences i produce.

[–] Gumus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago

Exactly. As a non-native speaker, I sometimes intentionally add these words to make my speech sound less formal and more casual.

On the other hand, most of the time I talk with other non-native speakers, so I'm not even sure they notice.

[–] ZMoney@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

What the actual fuck? Literally.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 days ago

Usually meant to increase the degree to which I'm being absurd or facetious. It's a manner of showing contempt for the thing I'm describing. I use it to joke more than with actual dialog.

But "kinda" probably happens in my daily vocabulary to such a degree that I'm unaware how much I use it. So, despite using this sort of word deliberately in certain situations, I'm also very guilty of using it everywhere else.

[–] Cherry@piefed.social 20 points 3 days ago (7 children)

IRL I often use too few filler words and get perceived to be blunt or direct. So I think there is a middle ground.

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[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 23 points 3 days ago (2 children)
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[–] bizarroland@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (2 children)

For some reason, I have an incredibly difficult time not saying like.

I bet if there were a word cloud of mymost commonly used words of all of my posts, "like" would be the sun in my fucking word solar system.

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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Uhhh idk like um maybe

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

I grew up in a house with a swear word jar, and a filler word jar. The swear word jar worked differently than most. We didn't put a quarter in every time we used a swear word. We put a dollar in every time we use a swear word incorrectly or as a filler word. According to my parents, "profanity should be used as punctuation and emphasis, not decoration."

The filler word jar worked like a normal swear word jar. $0.25 in the jar for each and every filler word we used. Since this was in the '80s and '90s, we learned to think about what we said before we started speaking.

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[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I'm ready for people to move on from describing 85% of things as "unhinged".

[–] CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Your comment is completely unhinged

[–] starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

His actions were completely hinged

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[–] tal@lemmy.today 8 points 2 days ago

I, like, totally do!

[–] Michal@programming.dev 14 points 3 days ago (7 children)

I'm always annoyed by the term lowkey, because in music, low key means lower pitch, and not low in volume. It's essentially bass, and my brain cannot comprehend how it could mean what it's supposed to mean.

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Wouldn't call it 'needless' exactly.

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