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[–] RebekahWSD@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago

Fond memories of reading the books as a kid, ordering the first books from England before they made all the dates for release the same.

All my books are thrown out and I don't touch that shit even pirate stuff because fuck her.

[–] Zagorath@quokk.au 24 points 6 hours ago

Just a few hours ago the social media algorithm gods decided to show me a video from an autistic woman who was basically saying exactly this. "Hey, my special interest is HP, but y'all need to understand that this isn't a 'Death of the Author' situation, Rowling is literally funding anti-trans bigotry and we need to not be complicit in that. I don't care if you pirate her stuff or buy second-hand or only read fanfiction, but don't give her money." Personally, I try to stay away even from secondhand consumption of her stuff because I just don't care about it, and I think it's at least best to avoid giving any positive or neutral (which to me includes any film/book review that isn't primarily focused on highlighting Rowling's bigotry, even if it's largely negative on the storytelling, prose, or dialogue) attention to the media in her franchise, but I can understand some people have a much stronger attachment to it and want to minimise the harm they cause by continuing to watch through pirated means.

But it's not really my place (as a cishet white dude) to say whether or not that's the correct choice for other people to make, so I won't judge any choice anyone makes that doesn't involve giving her money through purchasing official products.

[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Don't let the G*mers see this

[–] JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago

Pretty sure most community involved gamers are racist.

[–] vapeloki@lemmy.world 12 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

I would approach this from a different direction:

There is not nearly enough trans harrpy potter rule34 content out there. There needs to be a looooot more

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It might've been fun at first, but at this point the damage has been too extensive for that light hearted trolling

[–] vapeloki@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

As an autistic, pansexual, cis male:

I bought and read the books a long time ago. I saw the movies a long time ago.

This transphobe excuse of a human being got my money a long time ago.

Nothing can change this. She already rich before she started to show the world who she really is.

But we still can take the narrative control away from this "person".

And this is 196, so I think my idea is not completely out of place ;)

Like I said, it was a good idea before her toxic movement infiltrated the highest levels of governance and instituted policies. When Amnesty international revealed that her TERF orgs are funded by anti-choice Christian fascists, she sued them into silence. The policies she's pushed have gotten countless people killed and made life incredibly difficult for so many people. And it's not like the bigotry stays local; she exports it wherever it can take hold like a good hate activist.

She has done so much damage and hurt so many people that engaging in any way with her brand feels distasteful. HP will be tied to that evil woman forever, no matter how much we try and co-opt it. It doesn't deserve to be made fun of anyone, it deserves to be left behind as a source of joy. There are other wonderful series that are more deserving of our respect.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Careful, those main characters are awfully young, and HP fans will tolerate it.

[–] boonhet@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 hours ago

Ah ignore the main characters. It's time for Lucille Malfoy and... I was gonna say Snape but I wouldn't want to do that to the memory of Alan Rickman.

[–] vapeloki@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

I only can see wins:

a) there are many adult's also. And by now all characters are clearly adults. b) if the "community" shows to be a bunch of ni or "loving" perverts, that will ruin the franchise also for good.

[–] RedSeries@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

You don't wanna read Trans Wizard Harriet Porber And The Bad Boy Parasaurolophus: An Adult Romance Novel by Hugo award finalist Chuck Tingle?

[–] Emma_Gold_Man@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 42 minutes ago* (last edited 39 minutes ago) (1 children)

I think you misspelled "Hairy Frotter"

But no, I don't. I want every HP venture from now on to lose so much money she has to pay out of her own pocket to keep it relevant and can't afford to keep funding the other transphobes.

[–] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 3 points 41 minutes ago (1 children)
[–] Emma_Gold_Man@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 30 minutes ago* (last edited 30 minutes ago)

Intellectually I know we live in a post-satire world, and yet somehow I keep being surprised

[–] RedSeries@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 5 hours ago

No, I want the franchise to wither and fucking die already. This is as gross to me as a suggestion for trans pornfic of "Elonia Musk".

[–] Dadifer@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

The Daily Tism

[–] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 50 points 9 hours ago (8 children)

Yeah... The closer you look at the Harry Potter books, the more you wonder how we didn't realise JK Rowling was a bigot sooner

[–] ivan@piefed.social 25 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Some artistic works age badly and I think it’s okay. It becomes a problem if artist themselves is aging badly and doubling down on things that could definitely be better about their works.

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 8 hours ago (14 children)

Exactly. If Rowling was willing to own up the problematic stuff in her books and grow from it, it wouldn't be a big issue. If she even disappeared into her castle and lived her life quietly releasing bad additions to the universe, it'd just blend into the background and only be occasionally brought up. Instead, JK became a Nazi who reinforces patriarchy, strengthens fascism, and made life hell for so many trans people.

[–] QueenHawlSera@piefed.social 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The UK used to be trans friendly, it stopped being so mostly due to Joanne's influence.

Btw, she hates it when you call her Joanne.

[–] boonhet@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I have no idea why she never uses her full name: Joanne Kowling Rowling

[–] QueenHawlSera@piefed.social 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

It's because she really wants to be a man, and takes her (his?) aggression about penis envy out on trans people.

She prefers "JK" because it's more masculine

The real reason Joanne hates trans women is because they're giving up being a man, the thing JK wants most of all.

[–] Jeffsthebestboy@piefed.ca 4 points 5 hours ago

She also paints a nasty picture of older women. Intolerant, hateful and unwavering in both. Shes a bad view from every angle.

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[–] Doug@piefed.social 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The older I get, the more I realize I think I can pick up on things about a writer’s worldview, even if the work isn’t trying to make a point of the worldview details I might pick up on.

I’m pretty sure Ari Aster is ableist, Christopher Nolan and S Craig Zahler are republicans, and Todd Field did something heinous, but diligently oversees his own Wikipedia article and Google Alerts to a degree that ensures it’s hard to find/I’ve been too lazy to really dig into it.

[–] Nefara@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

Same, when I read through the Bobiverse series it was quite evident the author believes in biological determinism, great man theory, is at least somewhat sexist and feels squeamish around queer people. He doesn't outright say those things but it comes out in which characters are focused on, their actions, and the consequences of them. It's an entertaining series but for me it was hard to ignore the red flags.

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[–] Denvil@piefed.world 74 points 10 hours ago (7 children)

Harry Potter is fascinating to me because the books have messages against bigotry in them, and you look at the author and wonder how the gap between reality and the story could possibly exist

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I think she still thinks she's fighting against bigotry, she's just lost the plot (if she ever had it in the first place). There's lots of absolutely heinous people who fully believe that they're the good guys.

[–] Zagorath@quokk.au 20 points 6 hours ago

Everyone's pointing out the "slaves like being slaves, actually" messaging of the books, which...fair. But there's so much more to it than that.

Extremely intelligent magical creatures like goblins and centaurs are treated pretty explicitly as second-class citizens. The Wizarding World is an apartheid state, and this is only barely given mention in the series.

There's fatphobia and some very essentialist language, describing characters like Dudley as piggy.

There's the much-discussed antisemitic tropes inherent in the way the greedy banker goblins are portrayed.

It has an insanely strong attribution bias. The exact same behaviour or physical attribute can be endearing or evil depending on how much Rowling herself likes the character. It's why the incredibly creepy incel behaviour of Snape is ultimately portrayed as a positive because he did it in the name of the one-sided obsession that he (and Rowling) called love. It's why Dudley's fatness makes him a pig but Molly's is warm and loving. Some degree of this is, in fairness, to be expected in a children's series. But it doesn't lessen as the books age up with their audience, and I think it's harder to excuse with the behaviours than it is with the physical descriptions (which are, to be fair, from Harry's PoV).

There's one of like two black characters being named "Shacklebolt", the one east Asian character being "Cho Chang", and the Irish one being the one with a penchant for blowing things up.

Despite one of the strongest themes many of the books most ardent readers got out of the series being about self-acceptance for who you are, we get a fair few examples where people are made fun of for who they are, or are forced to change to fit in by the end of the story. Filch is a stand-in for squibs as a whole in this regard, and is not viewed with much respect. Tonks had strong queer/trans parallels, until at the end she decides to lean fully into her cishet femininity in order to win over a man.

But perhaps most importantly, our protagonist, and through him the narrative as a whole, only ever views things through an extremely liberal lens. The problem is the big bad evil wizard, and the single lazy incompetent Minister than enables him. It's not a system of oppression and compliance, that starts from when children are sorted into "smart, brave, evil, or the leftovers" at age 11. It frames things as a world where leadership by the Good People like himself or Dumbledore must be a good thing, but if the Bad People are in charge, like the Malfoys or Voldemort, they are the problem. In the end, despite having been screwed over numerous times by the institutions of the magical world, Harry himself becomes a literal magic-world police officer.

And that's without even getting in to the extended universe. Stuff like the entire continent of Africa having just one school despite the enormous range of languages and cultures. Or one in the Americas having a Latin name despite ostensibly having been founded before European contact. Just generally signs that Rowling really doesn't care enough about cultural sensitivity to think through her worldbuilding.

[–] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 89 points 9 hours ago

I feel like, if you think about what the book does, the gap isn't as big as you'd think.

"Hermione, don't let being muggleborn get you down. You're a powerful witch, and therefore have value. ...Let's just ignore how we treat Filch and act like his bitter attitude is his own fault, alright?"

"It is choices that matter, not circumstances. Like how the sorting hat chose for these people to be Slytherins, so they're all evil and probably ugly."

"Look at how heroic Harry is for freeing a slave. Now, we're going to give him a slave and not think too hard about that. In fact, Hermione wanting to free other slaves is annoying and we should laugh at her because of it."

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 57 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

TBF, the red flags are there.

Hermione gets moked for protesting. slavery is normalised but it's ok, because one elf becomes free, no one cares about the rest...

[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 21 points 8 hours ago

And the rest of the house elves think he's weird for wanting freedom....

I was an adult when I started reading them because my younger sister liked them, back when the movies first came out. I definitely had a few moments of 'oh thats kinda wrong' but I thought it was just crappy writing in a kids book and moved on.

And now I know better (well, for years now but you know what I mean).

[–] psycotica0@lemmy.ca 30 points 8 hours ago

A video essay I watched once made an interesting point, which was that JK named Hermione Hermione because she didn't want any real young girls to her bullied because of the books. Basically, she thought Hermione was the worst, and made the boys only barely tolerate her because she was useful to them.

But then a bunch of Hermione-coded girls started absolutely loving the books because they saw themselves in it, and the movies cast a pretty girl instead of an "ugly" one, and suddenly JK's "oh shit, uh, yeah... hero..." 😛

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[–] Bubs@lemmy.zip 9 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

I casually enjoy the movies and books. I read or watch them once every several years.

I will also never give her a single penny in any way possible.

I got the bluray set from a thrift store probably a decade ago. Books I just downloaded from a torrent. Watched the whole series with a few friends recently and we just found a free site to stream it. We all went into it well aware of how garbage the author is

Even not giving her money is still supporting her. Piracy has a less oppositional relationship with promoting media than you might think. The best thing is to always just move on to less evil stuff

[–] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I remember seeing someone post recently that pirating Harry Potter is like stealing a confederate flag. It's good you didn't give them money, but you're still showing your allegiance by having it at all.

[–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think this is quite the case. There is no one alive who could possibly have formed an attachment to the confederate flag before it became a bad thing, but the same is not true of HP.

I think you can continue to enjoy things you already own - if you can - so long as you do it quietly, and I think that more or less applies to piracy as well.

[–] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 42 minutes ago)

I don't give a shit when you formed an attachment to the confederacy, I care why it's currently so important to you to have a confederate flag in your home. Even if you keep it in the basement, you still have it. Worse, you went out of your way to get a new one, fully knowing it's evil.

There are people who liked the confederacy before you, and more than you, who have grown past it and given it up to protect others. Why won't you?

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

So you are not able to get over it.

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