would be hilarious if the dye fucked up modern truck engines
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cheaper, for now, until it’s not and home heating oil is jacked up, etc.
they know what they’re doing.
Recently renamed to super diesel.
Artificial diesel didn’t have the same ring to it.
It's not artificial; it's just dyed red to show it wasn't taxed.
Thank God it's not dyed blue cause fuck liberal diesel am I right or am I right?
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woooossssshhhhh…..
America Diesel!
Right... So now there'll be a heating oil shortage this winter. Perfect.
I love how it's all because of the Ukraine war, definatley couldn't have anything to do with the fucking iran war he started. Who's writing these articles jellyfish? Whatever it was it didn't have a spine.
I don't know how this can possibly work in practice.
One, this may relieve the federal diesel tax by "allowing" red fuel but will not exempt state and local taxes that he has no authority to affect, meaning it may still be illegal at the state level to run red fuel.
Two, the red fuel dye used to identify untaxed/offroad fuel is aggressive and can be detected at extremely low concentrations. If dyed fuel has ever been in a tank it's detectable for months if not years afterwards (depending on how much it gets refilled) and even then, sometimes they can swab the fuel cap for residue and detect it indefinitely. If a state trooper decides to have a tank dip done to inspect your fuel after this tax break stuff you are capital-F Fucked.
Two, the red fuel dye used in untaxed/offroad is aggressive and can be detected at extremely low concentrations, if dyed fuel has ever been in a tank it’s detectable for months if not years afterwards (depending on how much it gets refilled).
In other words, it fucks up the ability to tax diesel even long after the crisis is (theoretically/optimistically on Trump's part) over. Considering that they could have just suspended the tax on non-dyed diesel and directed refineries to stop putting the dye in temporarily, but didn't, one wonders if that was the real goal.
Absolutely fucks up the tax system. It would be a disaster for commercial trucking and I am betting you will not see widespread use of the untaxed fuel even if "allowed" as no operator wants to get on the wrong side of DOT after this is said and done.
This of course does not apply to light duty trucks and diesel cars where rednecks run red fuel in them almost all the time.
Hanlon's razor has been getting an exceptional workout these days. It could just be that Trump is monumentally stupid and didn't think about this at all.
Trump is monumentally stupid, but that doesn't mean his Wormtongue-esque advisors are. Trump probably didn't know red-dyed diesel existed before this; he definitely didn't come up with the idea to let truckers use it himself.
He had no idea what it is, said as much during his word salad rally speech.
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We don't tax fuel enough to maintain the roads as is. The states that are removing the gas tax going to see really terrible roads in the coming years because the funding mechanism went away. It also means we might have to shift to registration fees as the primary mechanism to fund roads, which we were already considering for electric cars but then we're going down this road you might have to make it Universal to all vehicles, preferably increasing with vehicle weights
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Three, if demand for red fuel goes up, so does the demand for home heating oil (it’s the same thing in my neck of the woods).
I hope it’s a mild fucking winter or a lot of senior citizens are gonna freeze to death this year.
Not entirely; off road diesel is usually the exact same distillate as on road diesel but dyed for tax purposes. AKA the distributors quite literally pull the diesel from the exact same bulk tank but then dye it for delivery. Both onroad and offroad are a ultra low sulfur refined base oil with motor lubricity and cleaning additives. Actual heating oil is a similar distillate but without all the motor fuel additives and (i think) looser sulfur restrictions. It usually comes from a different supply chain than offroad diesel, except in more rural areas where it may be regular dyed diesel for supply chain reasons.
I’ve never tried running heating oil in a diesel engine, but it works the same as diesel in my Chinese diesel heater.
My info is probably 30 years out of date back when Mercedes bros would run it to save money in highschool. The same guys were messing with veggie oil a few years later, which I much preferred.
Oh yeah, back in the 90s before ULSD was a thing it'd be fine for sure... Older diesels would be fine with it but you might have issues with it in modern diesels expecting low sulfur and the other additives
Yeah anything with DEF/urea I’m sure is stupid to mess with.
I gave up on owning a diesel when the VW scandal hit. It was such a disappointment.
Hey, maga republicans aren't known for "law and order" as much as they wanted the world to think... this much is very clear.
They don't give a fuck, if daddy pedo said they could, they will.
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Mountain Diesel, Code Red
Just forestalling the inevitable and making it worse at the same time.
Welcome, comrades, to centrally-planned economy.
It really resembles post soviet, Russian oligarchy.
I wonder why is the case.
But that's communism
Tax relief to soften the impact of high fuel costs is pretty normal government thing. Is why tax-free diesel exists in the first place. Trump's mistake was causing the high gas prices.
It's interesting to see Trump floundering on what he thinks will be popular among voters. Doing things that help Americans is an afterthought, he's scrambling like a failing student for extra credit ahead of the Final.
Yea, an additional issue here is that those taxes were used for things. Removing them does save people money, but the increased price ends up costing us both at the pump and also in lost tax revenue.
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Is why tax-free diesel exists in the first place.
Tax free diesel exists because the dyed diesel is not being used on public roads. Fuel taxes aren't random government money grabs, they directly fund roads, bridges, and other highway infrastructure.
Fuel taxes aren’t random government money grabs, they directly fund roads, bridges, and other highway infrastructure.
That's the budget the revenue from them goes into, but it's only a drop in the bucket compared to the total cost of that infrastructure. The road system is massively subsidized from sources other than driver user fees.
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Louisiana declared a state of emergency recently to allow the same thing lol
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