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[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 56 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Fantasies wasn’t were Barcley went wrong, it was involving coworkers without consent.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 35 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Wait, am I supposed to get consent to fantasize about coworkers?

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago

Well, I think what Barkley did was more like leaving your smutty fan-fic about your coworkers in the break room. It's OK to fantasize, but don't leave a paper trial, and definitely don't leave it where everyone can find it.

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I always get permissions from coworkers before i wank to pictures of them. I feel this builds a better relationship.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Make sure to make long, maintained eye contact afterwards. This further builds trust.

[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 days ago

Around Troi, I guess so.

She must go through some shit

[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 days ago

I mean, if you’re going to build life like simulations of them then yeah.

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[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Fine. I'm playing with Di-Anna Troy, Bill Ryeckur, JhanLuke Pikhard...

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)
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[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

For some reason that feels creepier.

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[–] emeralddawn45@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The creepy thing about Barclay wasn't that he was using the holodeck for porn/sex. The creepy thing was that he was using his friends images and treating them like objects. Lots of people fuck in the holodeck I'm sure but most people wouldn't go full creepy puppet master with recreations of everyone they know.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

he turns them into fetishes. geordie did it with one of the scientists though.

Yeah I think what Geordie did was way worse actually. Barclay was just using the crews faces/likenesses, but he put them in absurd situations with completely different personalities. Geordie had the computer scan all of this lady's public and private files, create as close a copy as it could based on that, and then fucked with her personality and removed her agency. He was a real fucking creep in that episode.

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Bit strictly speaking, isn't it unethical to create any virtual persons on the holodeck? They have shown again and again that they have self-awareness (see the holodoc).

The doctor was not a normal hologram, he had thousands of times more processing and memory capabilities and was designed from scratch specifically to [emulate] consciousness. He's more like Data with a holographic body. The only other hologram that comes close was the Moriarty hologram that was created by the computer by accident and basically ended up taking like the entire processing capability of the enterprise IIRC. Normal holodeck characters are basically chatbots.

[–] mad_lentil@lemmy.ca 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What I loved about Barclay was that he showed there were still regular fucked up people in Star Trek's future.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 45 points 5 days ago (2 children)
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[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

By the standards of Next Gen, we're all starving refugees from a horrifying war-torn planet that would need years of therapy to recover from our harrowing ordeal. Giving one of us a holodeck would be the equivalent of giving a concentration camp survivor an all-you-can-eat buffet; it might literally kill us.

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

It nearly literally killed them. More than once.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

barclay is a freak in the show, and irl apparently. tuvok did it uses it for sex, when he had pon farr one time.~___~

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Black Mirror did an absolutely magnificent take on this in the episode USS Callister (in my opinion easily top three episode)

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Now I want to see this, but I feel like I'll regret it.

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[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I would end up causing one of the infamous "holodeck malfunction" episodes. Except mine wouldn't be a result of the terrible design of the holodeck's safety systems, but simply my urge to fuck with things.

"Computer, simulate a holodeck with safeties off while keeping the safeties on."

"Computer, use the holodeck to construct an intricate simulation of the entire ship, including the holodeck and ship's computer."

"Computer, disable the safety locks and simulate a warp core breach inside the holodeck."

"Computer, disable safety locks and simulate a world-spanning fire."

"Computer, create a holodeck simulation of a holodeck. Have that simulated holodeck simulating a holodeck. Make that a hundred layers deep."

"Computer, have the holodeck simulate both a holodeck larger than itself and a holodeck smaller then itself. Run both simultaneously."

"Computer, create a simulation of Counselor Troi. Then create a simulation of Lieutenant Barclay pleasuring himself to that simulation. Then create a simulation of Counselor Troi psychologically analyzing the Lieutenant Barclay simulation. Then add another Barklay pleasuring himself to the the second Troy. Then and another Troi. Keeping doing this until the holodeck is full. Once operational and running, send an automated message to the real Counselor Troi and Lieutenant Barclay, in each other's voices, asking each other to come to the holodeck for an urgent matter."

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Computer disable safety interlocks and simulate a wormhole back to the alpha quadrant.

There, sorted.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 days ago

*cue IASIP music

How the gang got home with a vibe coded wormhole

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 26 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Full Barclay? Nah, I’m going full Bortus.

[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 days ago

Don't forget 500 cigarettes....you're uh...gonna need them.

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 5 days ago

Many of us probably would. Myself however would much more likely go the other Barkley.and mutter "Computer, end programme!" every now and then.

[–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Hmm.. that’s a tough one, I think it depends if the holodeck I have access to is on a spaceship traveling the universe or not.

If I’m stuck here on earth? Absolutely, gimme, I’ll live in it! I want to be able to see cool things and have pleasant social interactions. I desperately want to like vr for the same reason (not that it’s advanced enough for the socializing part, but not the point) but it makes me sick.

If I was on a space ship, though, especially one like depicted in star trek, totally accepting and encouraging of differences and stuff, where socializing just means wandering around whatever time of day, and talk to whomever you run into, most of the people I’d be around are brilliant, and everyone gets mental health support? Where we regularly explore novel things and new places? What else would there be to need, really? (I’m ace/aro so sex and romance aren’t something I’d be interested in using it for, only platonic companionship and novel exploration environments)

I’d probably use it for exercise, and that’s about it.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 17 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I'd like to argue that the sex drive of the future is somewhat different, but the reaction to Betazoid pheromes make it a hard case to make.

[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 37 points 5 days ago (1 children)

We witness the future equivalent of professional military service, and mostly follow officers on those ships. And almost always see them in uniform. Perhaps sex drive isn't different but we're witnessing workplace professionalism.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

Yes, the univeral and unrealistic competence of the crew extends beyond technical skills to emotional ones--nobody ever abuses their authority over a failed relationship.

Edit: Am I saying it's impossible that it could become a reality? Maybe I'm being too pessimistic about human nature; but I think between military strucutre and being stuck in a tin can full time for years together, things would be messier. Maybe some sailors would like to chime in.

[–] okwhateverdude@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Nah, not too pessimistic. Unless everyone is genetically modified (only through Dr. Bashir and the misfits do we know at least some were), everyone exists on a normal distribution. Lower Decks is arguably closer to what the humans would actually be like.

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Lower Decks is the best version of Trek in my opinion.

It's messy.

I appreciate the episodes we got, maybe they'll reboot it.

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[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yes, Lower Decks introduces blatant nepotism into the Star Fleet canon as well.

Gotta pick up Season 3, soon.

[–] EnsignRoApologist@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Introduces? Wesley gets preferential treatment at every turn because his mom is the CMO on the flagship and then because the most famous captain in the quadrant takes a liking to him.

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[–] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Funnily enough, when I bought a cheap VR headset, ca. 2020, I did try out the usual things like Google Earth, and, of course, at some point got curious about the, uh, adult contents. Who wouldn't? Y'know, just to take a look...

But somehow, it is... much less erotic. People doing it in 3D is somehow much less cool and much more weird than regular old smut. I blame it on being too realistic for fantasy, yet clearly being not realistic enough for the real thing. The uncanny valley of porn.

I imagine a holodeck would be the same, maybe even worse. Just not working.

[–] bampop@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

In this world, there's absolutely no way that a holodeck isn't going to be recording everything, and sharing those recordings with the government, targeting advertising clients, your mother, the HR department at your job, and anyone else who's willing to pay for it.

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[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] sirblastalot@ttrpg.network 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Finally, a commenter that understands what the holodeck is for!

[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Would be better to have a real lady control(long distance relationship?) it but you take what you can get

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Go full Miles and go whitewater rafting one week, play with minis another.

Could even have dinosaur races!

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[–] EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'd probably go the Mariner route: "I'm gonna work some shit out..."

Well, probably less "murder all my coworkers because therapy is scary" and more "morning workout routine Cardassian prison break" because I don't hate my coworkers THAT much but I could totally see myself doing some "defend yourself/rescue the hostage" type stuff.

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[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 4 days ago

I won't be Barclay. I'll be like Riker with Minuet in "11001001".

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

Computer, 20% bigger.

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Maybe a holosuite, but if I'm on a starship, the wonders of the cosmos are definitely getting me outside every once in a while, at least when the crew gets shore leave if I'm not allowed on away missions

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[–] marzhall@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

I gained access to Minecraft, was bored by the lack of direction, and left after maybe half an hour.

Other people make CPUs in that game.

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