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So we can put celebrities in prison for rape?
Sooooooooooooooooooooooo........
Xenu can be worshipped from prison, right? Have fun, see you in 2056
What a shitty way to throw away a life that’s handed to you on a golden platter.
Fucking awful person.
Tell me about it. He was the most popular character in a wildly successful sitcom, and then transitioned from TV star to a successful DJ in an era where no one makes it big as a DJ anymore.
Bro was living my dream, and he had to go and fuck it all up by being a rapist. He should have listened to Conan.
I know it’s not about sex, but about power. But in his position, he almost certainly had many willing women throwing themselves at him, and he felt the need to rape people?
Like I said, it’s about power, not sex, but he also had a tonne of power. Why do this, given all that? The fuck is so broken about this fucker that all the free sex and so much career power wasn’t enough?
“To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women!”
What did Conan say?
Why are you asking people to [touch your balls]? That's the more important question. Accidents aside, that's the more important thing. I've heard about you, and you'll be caught soon; I know you will.
https://youtu.be/JuTEjRXQ1KA (Relevant part starts at 4:48)
Another reminder that aside from Topher Grace, the rest of the cast all stood behind Danny when the rape allegations first came out.
They wrote letters for his trial
Ashton is a pedo are you surprised
Wait what? Honestly i did not keep up with any of the cast
Waiting for the Olsen twins and Hilary Duff to turn 18. Now for what it's worth, Eminem said the same in a song.
https://x.com/MrPopOfficial/status/1700561885613973605
On "The Rosie O'Donnell Show" in 2002, Kutcher himself would admit, "She was 14 when we started the show. I was, like, 19, right? And they're like, 'Okay, you guys are going to be making out in this scene,' and I'm thinking, like, 'Wait, this is slightly illegal, right?'" Despite these reservations, Kutcher said that he had attempted to "French kiss" Kunis during the scene
In an episode of "Hot Ones" from 2019, Kutcher was asked to share anything he could about the famous parties Diddy threw. Kutcher said, "I've got a lot I can't tell,"
Source:
https://www.thelist.com/1699466/ashton-kutcher-controversial-moments/
His presence really ruins That 70's Show rewatches.
The age old question, can you separate the art from the artist? Very philosophical and never an easy one.
If information wants to be free, and if buying not equaling owning means that piracy isn't theft, then art doesn't belong to artists anyway. Additionally, it's facile to be too black-and-white about crime; criminals are still humans and being shit in one aspect of their lives doesn't necessitate that we act as if they were shit in EVERY aspect of their lives. Even criminals still bleed when pricked and laugh when tickled, etc. If we reject the possibility of redemption/rehabilitation, then we might as well execute all criminals. Now, that's not to say that we should simply forgive every criminal. But rehabilitation only works when it focuses on reminding the criminal of how they can still be useful to society.
It's made a lot easier when the shitty artist is dead. It's appropriate to talk about H. P. Lovecraft's racism and xenophobia, hell it even informs understanding of his work a bit better, but buying his work doesn't fund ongoing bad acts because he's been dead for almost a century. If you're going to be a terrible person, the least you can do is also be dead.
I read a very interesting book on this topic, Monsters: A Fan's Dilemma by Claire Dederer. It doesn’t really give a general answer (arguably impossible anyway), but it was a fascinating exploration of the dilemma.
Personally, I veered all the opposite way - now I avoid entertainment in general out of ethical principle, save for very counted exceptions, because 1. people are generally easy to corrupt, so even someone generally regarded as clean can get cancelled at any point in the future, and 2. the entertainment industry has made it their modus operandi to never separate the art from the artist, therefore making the industry in general more and more morally corrupt. And since checking every single individual credit on every single individual work of entertainment in order to avoid supporting immoral people is prohibitively time-consuming, it has become stochastically immoral to have fun. Most people refuse to accept it though, and that's precisely on what the industry counts to keep things under wraps for as long as possible.
Excuse my surprise here. I know nothing about this case. I never saw the tv show and don't know this person. But, I am so surprised this rich famous guy gets 30 years when my entire 50 plus year life has been constantly peppered with stories of randos getting community service and probation for raping women, and even children. More than one of them have recieved supreme court appointments. What percent of convicted rapists get sentenced to 30 years or more in the USA? I asked AI and it claims less than 4%. Was he not in the right frat or something? Like, remember Brock the fratboy who raped an unconcious woman in a dumpster enclosure and got let off? I don't understand what goes on, and I don't trust it. That symbol of blind justice has a terrible conotation in this context.
I'm perhaps being too edgy, forgive me. But, you must see that even if this guy deserves 30 years, which I am not disputing. How is there such a wild variance in American "Justice" ? Its just wild to me.
Fuck him and fuck Scientology
Good. Get fucked Danny Masterson.
I hope the rest in the white house get something worse one day. Soon I hope.
If only every rapist and abuser was punished too.
We get it. You meant Conan the Librarian.