Based on some other link posts I've seen on Beehaw, I'd thought this was already the expectation. 🤭
Good thing to point out and intentionally encourage, regardless.
this post was submitted on 10 Jun 2023
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I really think we should push for people to read the actual article themselves, rather than encouraging or enabling the intellectual laziness that plagues social media. We're better than that.
I think would be a good to expand upon the title a bit, especially if it doesn't reflect the contents well.
Ideally yes, but we know that behavior probably won't change :)
Realistically, no.
I would agree that encouraging reading is better but too many articles are behind paywalls and/or poorly written without substance. I find tldr helps me to assess whether there is likely to be anything behind the fluff and am grateful to those who post them.
The article text itself should be quoted, rather than a tldr. Leaving that to the comments means there's a better separation of editorializing and people can choose to interact with the article in different ways.
Instead I'll start pedantic arguments based only on the title of the posts.
Trends will point to people not being better when it comes to actually having to open external links, so next best thing is copy pasting the article or a screen shot to try and find alternatives as opposed to hoping they'll be better. They won't haha.
I think that instead, quotes from the article itself should be posted as the text. Leave any further editorializing to a comment.
This will encourage engaging with the actual content of the article, rather than just making some extremely biased, misinformed, or otherwise improper, tldr, and gives a better opportunity for interacting with the editorializing directly via comments.
The risk is that the TLDR could be editorialized. The summary that Lemmy automatically inserts from the website should be enough for this purpose.
This would work especially well for sites that choose to use clickbaity headlines like “Is this the year of Linux on the desktop?”. On reddit that would inevitably end up with lots of “No” posts from people who hadn’t even thought of clicking on the link.
It’s nice to see you worrying about how to combat the spammers already too 😀
While I agree, lemmy seems to generate a short description of the linked URL by itself which is already very useful.
It'd be great to stop clickbait in it's tracks here. I love the auto title, a great feature would be an "Auto description", similar to the autotldr bot we had on Reddit. Would automatically fill out the description based on the relevant points
I always liked Metafilter's "Front Page Post" where the text body included many more links and information about the subject. (I have linked here to what I consider a particularly well done example)
I think there's some quality writers out there and some people doing really good research (and I'm not just talking about DD in /r/Superstonk), and having additional information is of great service to deeper discussion. Otherwise half of the discussion can be unknowingly a retread of very well-worn ideas. That's less likely to happen the more information is added.
I like the idea of a TL;DR at the beginning of a post, but I also like the idea of additional links and information "below the jump" as the beanplaters at MeFi say. This allows the best of both worlds, a quick rundown as well as more information for those who wish to view it.
MetaFilter is the best of the best, I adore that website.
One great feature I see no one talking about is that we can write our own text when posting links
Since I'm new here (fleeing from reddit), I'm not sure what precisely you mean in technical terms. How to use that feature? Or is it just that we can add text along the link, unrelated to any syntax?
We should try to make it a habit to write the main point(s) that the article is making to avoid misinformation and ragebait titles. Ideally, a post without any text backing the article would become a red flag that it’s posted by some bot or mass spammer, and would not be floated to the front page.
Yes, I consider this best practice.
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