If bail is supposed to be a disincentive to flee, what effect is $200k supposed to have on a "billionaire"? A pauper would get that high a bond in this case, and no pauper has access to a private jet.
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We need Swedish day fine systems for all levels of government.
If a fine costs a month's wages for someone working minimum wage, it should scale up and still cost a month's wages for people who earn more.
That said, cash bail is an incredibly stupid system. If someone is a flight risk, put an anklet on them. If there's a sincere belief they may flee the jurisdiction, then they need to be deprived of their freedom to travel. And if they aren't any kind of flight risk get them the fuck out of jail. The punishment should not precede the trial.
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Yeah, $200,000 is laughable for somebody like him. I feel like appropriate for someone from upper middle class.
Shouldn't this joke be treated like joking about bombs at an airport? At minimum adding a couple of zeroes to the bond?
This. Have we really not learned this lesson? We need to take what he says literally and seriously.
How wild that would be. Withdrawal all his campaign donations and just up and go to Russia. He could put a spin on it and make his base extremely upset and violent because the evil left forced him to flee because it's all rigged.
They should have never allowed a bond to be set. He should have just been kept in jail until the trial. Any of us normies would have had to...
Rules are for poor people
He violated his bail conditions almost straight away, of course. Just as everyone expected him to.
https://www.meidastouch.com/news/trump-appears-to-violate-consent-bond-order-in-fulton-county
The question will be whether he gets locked up for that.
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His spectacular lack of self-awareness means that everything he says is projection.
If he does flee can he please take elmo with him?
Bad nickname. Elmo is more of a man than Musk will ever be, and Musk is more of a muppet.
Trump doesn't joke. He doesn't know how to.
Exactly. He is literally telegraphing his next moves.
Trump: Haha jk jk… unless??
So he’s absolutely going to flee to Russia
Watch a good chunk of the American people vote for a convicted man who fled to Russia for 2024!
Great opportunity to sentence the orangebutt in absentia for treason
“Jokes…”
I mean, him running away to Russia would split Republicans even more. He'd still have his dedicated followers, but it would cause even more of a fight regarding DeSantis and others.
I'm trying to decide which would be more chaotically beneficial for the rest of us, him going to jail or fleeing.
Good question. I'm not sure how truly attached his followers are to him, but if they are really that tied to him and his media ecosystem, I think it would be worse for him to be in Russia. It brings a whole new loyalty into the mix with those folks.
Who knows, maybe the US will get lucky and all of Trump's followers will follow him to Russia?
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Him going to jail is the better scenario as he can still run even if he is in prison and he'll split the R vote down the middle. But if he flees the country they'll strike his name off the ballot and you get a DeSantis on the ballot as the official nomination. I still think the R's would lose, but it would be a closer contest.
These trials are going to take forever so I don't think he'll flee until after he loses in 2024. At that point he has no reason to stay anymore.
Though at this point, it looks like Trump will get the nomination with no real competition from DeSantis or anyone else, regardless of going to jail.
Trump fleeing and some states striking him from the ballot will enrage his supporters and make them not vote for who the actual nominee is.
I think the fleeing outcome harms the Republican chances more.
Their position on Russia is one of the more ridiculous contortions for Trump fanatics. They claim to hate communism and love freedom and yet their daddy sold out to the Kremlin so they have to find ways to act like they wanted us to be Russian apologists all along.
There's no inconsistency in hating communism and loving Putin's Russia, since Putin and today's Russia have nothing to do with communism.
Granted, but I don’t think they can really discern the difference
The crazy thing is that the reason why communism sucks is that (at least currently) it requires totalitarianism to implement it. And that comes with a lot of issues. Communism in theory looks like utopia. Russia no longer is communist, but it absolutely is totalitarian, but according to them that's somehow good.
Also what I noticed is that those tankies on lemmygrad, aren't really pro communism, they are pro totalitarianism.
There's a whole bunch of MAGAts who are pro-Russia. Just listen for the anti-Ukraine rhetoric, then go check their voting patterns.
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-may-build-village-american-conservatives-1799809
I can live with Trump leaving and his moronic followers leaving as well. I'd prefer him in prison, of course, but exile until death is acceptable.
"Jokes"
The first, they say it was just a joke vibe
Don't threaten us with a good time.
I could see it... Him and Putin launching rockets at their enemies.
Putin has no use for Trump as a free person. At best, he might even use him in some sort of "extradition trade" with the US, after this whole Ukraine war thing blows over.
There’s a long tradition in diplomatic history of monarchs letting deposed monarchs from hostile countries live in their state in luxury. At worst it’s a lingering thumb in the eye of the country that has to continually acknowledge that there’s a deposed king who is living it up abroad whom their government cannot touch. At best it sets up a bud to re-take the throne at some future point, with the deposed king now completely loyal and beholden to the foreign king and his government.
Perhaps also foreign income due to a bizarre form of tourism for his US based fans?
Trump was exposed to large amounts of highly classified information as president for four years, and has shown a willingness to sell it to the highest bidder. He'd 100% throw the US under the bus to stay in Russia, and his supporters will deny he ever did such a thing just as they deny he publicly called for storming the Capital or as they deny the current charges against him
Oh having the "true" leader of the US in exile would be insanely useful to Putin. Base goes crazy, GOP in disarray, propaganda tool within Russia on perils of democracy etc., bump him off if he kicks off & blame NATO (or whoever).
He may joke about it, but he's not going to do it
I think he's going to pull some stunt on Thursday, but I don't think he'll flee. He'll only do that if all his legal challenges fail and it looks like he'll be convicted.
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