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[–] LarryTheMatador@sh.itjust.works 121 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)
[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Remember Champ biting specific members of the secret service?

Dogs know. Dogs always know.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, that's why some rip kids' faces off, they all deserve it.

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago

Also why they shit on grass. They know.

[–] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Shh, stop being rational, doggos are le magical social creatures

[–] sheilzy@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

That was actually Major, their younger dog at the time. Champ was their elderly dog who died a couple years ago. They since got a younger pup, Commander, and he too, has been biting staffers, but I don't know if they revealed which agencies the victims work for. Maybe Commander is copying what his elder brother does, but iirc Major doesn't live in the White House too often nowadays. He might just have the same intuition.

[–] SnowdropDelusion@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In case anyone, like me, wants a source for Pence refusing to get in the car with the Secret Service. It’s from the book “I Alone Can Fix It.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/26/pence-car-raskin-comments/

The “terrified” part is speculation, but potentially true.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder if they would have used 'the VP has been kidnapped by Antifa!' as justification for the insurrection act.

[–] QHC@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

They were chanting "hang Pence" and literally, physically building a gallows. The intentions were quite clear.

[–] athos77@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do we have any proof that the messages were deleted on the instruction of the White House? I've always thought they arranged the mass-deletion on their own - but it was a very busy time and I might well have missed the bit about them being ordered to delete them.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well it helped Trump, was against policy, and they answered to him.

[–] athos77@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

All true. However, there's a difference between being told/ordered to do a thing, and thinking (on your own), "Hey if I do this thing it'll cover my ass and help my side". OP is claiming they were told to do it - and that may be true, but I'd like some proof toward that.

[–] RegularGoose@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What's more likely? That they all independently had the same idea to commit the same crime at the same time, or that their ringleader told them to do it, so they did it?

[–] TechnoBabble@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If they used SMS those records are still around.

Or did they use something else?

[–] chakan2@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is likely bullshit, your milage may vary...but I though they used encrypted black berries. Its on a private network/vpn separate from civilian traffic.

It seems like Trump threw a fit about it at one time.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The proof is they wouldn't have done it if they had not been told.

[–] cowfodder@unilem.org 85 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some of those that work forces are the same that burn crosses

[–] gowan@reddthat.com 67 points 1 year ago

Then these agents need to be removed immediately and investigated for sedition.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 48 points 1 year ago

Shouldn't background checks for Top Secret clearances that involve employees in closer contact with important government officials screen out those with links to radical ideologies?

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow. So much for background checks.

They did the background checks - just not in the way most people expected.

[–] blady_blah@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do you guys not remember how the SS "accidentally" deleted all the texts from SS agents on the day of Jan 6th? "Whoops! Our bad!" Heads should have rolled big time!

[–] JoJoGAH@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I thought the same thing, these guys had a lot of confidence in doing what they did. They must have had that confidence for a reason,. It also explains the appearance of not having an end plan, if they believed the next stage was not their part of the coup. The next part of the plan we may never actually learn but damn we need to find out where the government has been compromised.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

It feels like one of the flaws in the system is that, while we'd want the agents who surround the president to be vetted more than almost anyone else, it's the executive branch that's responsible and apparently the president can give the okay for someone who doesn't otherwise pass, as we saw happen for his kids. What's to stop a corrupt president from having corrupt USSS agents?

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 19 points 1 year ago

Well, colour me surprised 9 ways to Sunday and fuck me sideways. You don't say that police attend to associate with right wing terrorists. /s

[–] Yewb@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Some of those at work forces are the same that burn crosses

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Just praetorian things.

[–] Poob@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cops regularly reach out to far right groups for information

[–] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also, far right groups recruit cops and ex-military. The venn diagram of law enforcement to right-wing militia groups has a lot of overlap.

[–] Locuralacura@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

It's a circle.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 year ago

The degree of rot keeps getting more and more astounding. I say this as someone who is completely unsurprised. Contradiction? Yeah. Both are true at the same time.

[–] TvanBuuren@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago

Without reading I thought he was a poor man's Nick Fury cosplay....

[–] cloud@lazysoci.al -5 points 1 year ago

Government is not your friend