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[–] glimse@lemmy.world 63 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Dobby was a pitiful creature enslaved by a bad guy who dies saving the main characters

Jar Jar was a stupid alien added to the prequel for comedic relief

[–] grue@lemmy.world 19 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Jar Jar was a stupid alien added to the prequel for comedic relief

Jar Jar was the big bad until they dialed up the obfuscating stupidity too high and the backlash made George Lucas chicken out.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 23 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Darth Jar Jar has always been canon and nothing will convince me otherwise

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 12 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I don't really buy Darth Jar Jar, but I can see him being an exiled Jedi. None of his "accidents" worked against the goals of the heroes and he was always where he needed to be. He felt like the drunken fool who would be revealed to a kungfu master by the end. Gin's dismissive lines to him in episode 1 was setting up for something. The whole prequel trilogy was about the corruption of the Jedi and Jar Jar might have been exile or left because of his opposition to it.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

None of his actions worked against the sith plot either. Remember that they weren't on the side of the droid army, that was just a bad guy whose presence allowed them to manipulate the senate and jedi and set them up for their takeover/downfall. The first thing Palatine does after he's won is orders Anakin to cut off the head of that bad guy, now that they were no longer needed.

And even though it appeared that the good guys won episode 1, in hindsight I'd call it almost a complete victory for the sith. Palpatine was chancellor, Qui Gon (who might have had the wisdom to help Anakin avoid the dark side) was dead, Anakin (who Palpatine and Plagius caused to come into existence with some force fuckery 8 years prior to ep 1) was in the jedi and was already contentious and being trained by a jedi who was not equipped to handle someone as tempermental as Anakin, and the trade federation was on the radar as a threat to the Republic. The only loss to them was their enforcer, Maul.

The outcome of the battle for Naboo didn't matter to them. Though it was also Anakin that won that battle, despite Jar Jar's chaotic effectiveness for their side. Without Anakin's surprise victory, they didn't really have a path to victory and IIRC they were pretty much surrendering when the droids suddenly went dead, so it wasn't like Jar Jar was even winning the conflict for them.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

None of his “accidents” worked against the goals of the heroes and he was always where he needed to be.

Well yeah, he was still in the "gain their trust" phase. The betrayal/reveal was going to happen in the second or third movie.

The whole prequel trilogy was about the corruption of the Jedi and Jar Jar might have been exile or left because of his opposition to it.

Jar Jar causing the corruption of Anakin, more like.

[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago

That's just a fan theory made up by prequel fans trying to save face.

You can watch the behind the scenes documentaries. Jar jar was always meant to be a comedic character.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 0 points 15 hours ago

I watched the original trilogy in the 90s but after seeing the jar jar movie in theaters, didn't watch anything in the franchise until Andor.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 hours ago

I watched Episode One when it was released and I was completely bored through the whole thing. I enjoyed the first three movies in theaters well enough, so I was surprised at how bored I was.

I watched Episode One again with my spouse who had never seen Star Wars, as a “we should watch the first three movies for Spaceballs context” like a decade ago, then watched the fourth because I remembered it being shit. The only good part in that movie is when Jarjar says “DAT SMEL STINKAWIFF”, one of the fucking worst lines ever written. We quote it often now.

[–] Airfried@piefed.social 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

was a pitiful creature enslaved by a bad guy who dies saving the main characters

Also explains why we love Anakin/Vader.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Airfried@piefed.social 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It's definitely the most popular character in the franchise.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Is it, though?