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I heard that Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales leaders are planning to meet to break up UK. Is it really true? Anyone from UK here who can tell me what is actually happening there?

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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I support the removal of Northern Ireland from the UK so that it can be reunited into the Irish Republic.

[–] Naive@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Are you Irish?

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

did you ask northern Ireland first?

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Did England fucking ask Northern Ireland first?

[–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Does that matter? It's about time someone starts asking them.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 7 hours ago

Will voted remain overwhelmingly so the kind of have been asked.

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"England"

Jaysus lad learn your history.

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago

Probably a Yank. They've never been too keen on history or geography... or maths... or any education, really.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] yesman@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The truth is that the British practiced colonizing Ireland before they took their show global. They even partitioned the Island. The British get horny for partitioning stuff. They partitioned India and Palestine too.

British Patriotism requires amnesia. God damn the King.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ireland was partitioned due to a referendum, so yes they were asked.

[–] Seimhe@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

No such referendum occurred. British legislation came into effect without a public vote.

Irish leaders were promised by British negotiators that there would be an "immediate and terrible war" in Ireland if they did not agree.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A referendum was held in 1973, so I should have said partition continued due to a referendum.

However even the opt-out of 1922 could be seen as the result of a public vote, as Sinn Féin campaigned the 1921 election focused almost solely on the issue of partition, and underperformed with 20% of the popular vote.

Unionist and nationalist paramilitaries had been formed during the previous decade, and both had been generously armed by Germany during the war. Unionist paramilitaries had taken to marching through English cities en masse, promising England would face consequences if a united Ireland gained independence.

[–] Seimhe@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

However even the opt-out of 1922 could be seen as the result of a public vote, as Sinn Féin campaigned the 1921 election focused almost solely on the issue of partition, and underperformed with 20% of the popular vote.

Within the partitioned North, yes. The British settlers far outnumbered the Irish at that stage. It didnt' matter what way the Irish voted.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

So you’re saying the Scottish Indyref would be invalid unless the English got to vote too?

[–] Seimhe@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

No, absolutely not. I’m saying that’s what the situation is for Ireland as set out in the Good Friday Agreement. Scotland isn’t mentioned .

[–] Rugnjr@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Do you know the answer to your question? Did they?

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

Nope, but it should still also be a referendum.