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Good. I hope the democrats play just as dirty and hard as the republicans going forward. We cannot be civil with barbarians.
I would also like them to do that too, but I would prefer they do it for something other than nepotism.
The left needs a populist movement like Bernie Sanders has been saying, the movements the left has seen prior to this point have tapered out because they didn’t get money backed support, and because they didn’t capture the hearts and mind of the comfortable democrat voter.
It’s had been an uphill battle till now, but maybe things will be different going forward because the republicans are going to peel back a lot of hard won rights and freedoms, and also degrade quality of life and standards of living with their health, economic and education policies.
...I don't disagree, but I'm struggling to see how this is related to my comment. Are you replying to the right person?
Oh thanks, don’t recall which one I was replying to
Its not exactly revolutionary action, him pardoning his son is no win for the working class
Who cares?
Anyone who has bothered to do their homework knows the Democrat party votes in favor of the working class WAY more often than Republicans. Hell, a few weeks before the election Trump and Musk did a televised interview where they jerked each other off about how much they hate unions and worker rights. Then working Americans voted them into power.
Now stupid Americans are going to get the corruption they deserve.
This is whataboutism, I am for neither blue or red, I hope they both burn. The only group I care for is the working class hense I care about nepotism within the political class.
Then I'm sure you've done your homework and found out that Democrats historically vote in favor of the working class WAY more than Republicans, so you should vote Democrat if you care about the working class.
Because I promise you, a 3rd party isn't viable in the United States, so your options are Democrat or Republican.
Not that you may have that option anymore going forward.
I'm a revolutionary socialist. I give no fucks to what little bread crumbs the dems brush off of the table. We have seen "democratic" politics play out, the centrist shift to the right.
Fuck that. Playing dirty in this instance does zilch to help you. Why the fuck would you support this? How does Hunter Biden being pardoned help you or anyone else at all? Democrats are okay to play dirty when it is done defending basic rights for Americans, not for the political elite. Hunter is a grifter and he should absolutely face the consequences.
Because I'm tired of watching the Dems be held to a higher standard and taking the high road and honoring decorum and losing to a corrupt as fuck party of traitors.
Americans voted for corruption, so now they're going to get it. Hopefully we get so fucking corrupt it actually makes us act like adults and vote more intelligently. Doubt it. We're probably done for. But that's our own fault.
Again, I'm perfectly fine with Democrats playing dirty when it helps the country as a whole. They want to gerrymander to hell to get something like socialized health insurance passed or something like ranked choice voting? Have at it. This is just nepotism. It doesn't help you. It doesn't help the Democratic Party. Nobody should be for this.
Nepotism is standard in America. We don't care enough to actually do anything about it. In fact, we just voted to make it worse. I'm aware it doesn't help me. It helps a guy who was a solid president who doesn't want his son to be in prison for non-violent crimes while a criminal president who openly stated he will target his political opponents sits in the Oval Office. Can't blame him in the least. Especially since most presidents pardon people who support them at the end of their term. It's normal in America.
If we didn't like it, we could vote more intelligently. But we don't, and we won't.
30% of eligible voters elected Trump, Democrats are allowed now to do what they want. Okie-dokie.
Continue on with your "they took the high road" loss analysis. It's been said so many times I don't think anyone even knows what the "high road" is. If you could explain it to me I might be better informed.
I mean, I agreed already that this action isn’t a win for voters. I am just sick of people crying about Biden doing this selfish thing for his family when Republicans are literally supporting white supremacy. There’s too much money support for the white supremacy movement, the left it needs own comparable financing against this.
How does this combat that? Does this bring in funding to do that? It absolutely does not.
But then the Democrats will BECOME the barbarians. Do not stoop to the level of sloppy populism -- behave honorably and it will pay off in the long-term.
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We found out in 2024 that is not true. Voters are perfectly willing to vote for the most dishonorable candidate ever to run for office.
2024 is not long term. This is not the last election.
Taking the "high road" WAS the Dems long term plan. It failed. Doesn't work.
It failed in the short term. We still have the whole remainder of USA history (whatever that ends up being). Despite what parties will have you believe, there is a life outside of the run up to the election and inauguration. There is also a Democrat presence at lower levels, for example, in the state and county contexts. I would prefer it if the whole world doesn't rush to emulate Trump in their approach to the world, as I don't think it's the best long term plan for our country.
Faith in promises made by presidents is at an all time low and I don't think we need to do more to further degrade that.
In a world where we keep poking each other's eyes out, everyone ends up blind.
Stop, please.
I believe in the goodness in people more than is optimistically allowed, but even I am forced to acknowledge the existence of sociopaths and psychopaths who abuse the good will of innocents and well-meaning people alike.
Sociopaths and psychopaths will always make fun of those they abuse, and they will use the morals and ethics of people against them.
You are a simple hypocrite.
Wow, dude calls out shitty people and you decide to claim solidarity with the shitty people.
Yeah, I don't believe you know what you are talking about.
You're the one who seems confused.
But hey, you can lead a horse to water....
Stop both sides bs, this is a guy pardoning his son's addiction, not committing treason, attacking the capital, or selecting a cabinet of pedophiles. Have some fucking humanity, putibot.
eVeRyoNe WhO diSaGreEs WiTh Me iS a RuSsIan AsSet!!!!!!
What the f*ck does this have to do with War Criminal Putin? You volunteering this out of nowhere makes me think you're a Kremlin stooge. Like a kid shouting "I didn't eat the cookies" when nobody was talking about any cookies missing from the jar.
humanity for the guy responsible for thousands of dead kids and many more being starved simply for the crime of being born in a disgusting apartheid state ? the hypocrisy of the american elites knows no shame.
biden deserves all the misery in this life and after it.
Biden is trash but it's somewhat absurd to hold him accountable for USA's long history of genocidal imperialism. If it weren't him, it would just be another brainwashed puppet.
Why are you projecting what Russia is onto other countries?
10 Torture Sites in 1 Town: Russia Sowed Pain, Fear in Izium
Ukraine: Rape and torture by Russian forces continuing, rights experts report
Ukraine conflict: 'Russian soldiers raped me and killed my husband'
Rape has become a weapon in Ukraine. Finding justice may be difficult
no country other than maybe Britain has killed even a tenth of civilians. ukraine looks like a peace summit compared to what us did to bangalesh, combodia, south america and even palestine today. trump today very much represents the systemic moral rot that america is. but everyone there is now crying because they are going to be mildly affected by the fasicsm they have forced across the world
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/genocide-us-cant-remember-bangladesh-cant-forget-180961490/
https://jacobin.com/2023/11/kissinger-in-cambodia
biden has the highest donation from aipac and has basically acted as their pimp for all his political career. he held the ukraine aid hostage to supply 2000lb bombs to mass murder civilians in refugee camps. atleast in past there was the pretense of cold war but this time its a democrat president shamelessly enabling a genocide of poor brown people while starving & evicting them from their own land. forget weapons they don’t even have enough tents and food to survive the winter and this two faced shtihag is sending them f-35 and artillery worth tens of billions.
and now his whoring addict son making millions of his political connections while cheating millions on taxes deserves 10yr blanket pardon while newborns are blown to pieces by his very policies ? and this make him humane ?
downvotes all you want but you are all are defending a rotten genocider
Palestinian newborn twins killed as father obtained birth certificates
Yeah but maybe the world would be better if everybody was blind. I can't imagine a blind person using a gun effectively.
At least neoliberals are finally admitting they have no moral high ground whatsoever.
Why don't you go over to Afghanistan and play nice with the Taliban, hmm? Or better yet, sit down for tea with Boko Haram. Oh, I know, why don't you walk into North Korea, try entering one of the gulags? I'd love to see the look on your face. Fuck your holier-than-thou mentality. Moral high ground? Keep talking about that, when ISIS puts you in an orange jumpsuit.
You going to saudi arabia, palestine, usa with off-white skin tone?
You can Google words if you don't understand their meanings.
Empire has always been blind to justice, freedom, etc.
Have you poked your own eyes yet?
These people don't deserve eyes