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[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 56 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Google: "Do kangaroos fart?"

Now, and this is apparently the hard part. Look at the results. NO don't look at the AI bit on top, KEEP SCROLLING, there is more stuff down there. Look until you see a thing that appears to be a not bullshit source.

Click on that result.

Read it.

Congratulations. You learned something that is probably true.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 21 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Google

I'd like to politely decline.

Now, glancing over DuckDuckGo results tells me that kangaroos do fart and there's no mention of that being unusual in any way. So now what do I do? I come back here and ask the person who claimed they don't fart to please elaborate and why they claim that. What was gained in this exercise?

[–] BlackRoseAmongThorns@slrpnk.net 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Okay wise guy, what if an LLM told you the same thing? what would be gained then?

What if the comment your pointing at is wrong?

What if you didn't need to have your thinking done for you?

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 7 points 3 weeks ago

The very first thing I said was that I agree with not asking an AI, ever, for anything.

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Why does you learning something require you to go and do all of that? You learned that OP is incorrect and you shared that with everyone here. Why are you adding steps? Is this genuinely a new concept for you?

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Huh? There may be a reason why they said that and I might like to know?

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You're the one that was complaining that not just using AI was too much work, right?

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 3 points 3 weeks ago

Definitely not.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

DDG just uses Bing under the hood. Why do you prefer Microsoft over Google?

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Because neither DDG nor Microsoft is tracking me when I use DDG.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's DDG's browser, though, not the search engine (which is what we were talking about).

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And clearly they can't be trusted. How you gonna confirm that they don't make similar carveouts with their website?

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Do you have a better search engine?

[–] Axolotl_cpp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Ecosia, SearXNG, Startpage*, Presearch

A good starting point to discover new search engines: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_search_engines

*I have many doubts about startpage privacy, I didn't bother search tho

[–] tb_@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I don't like how Startpage's owner owns a bunch of legacy search engine URL's (such as webcrawler and dogpile) and just serves the seemingly same engine on all of them.

System1

(Also yes, WebCrawler used to be a search engine, before the practice of "crawling the web" came to apply to what all search engines do. Pretty neat history!)

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world -4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No, I don't. That's why I'm using DDG.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world -3 points 3 weeks ago

Have fun being tracked my Microsoft, then.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] MBM@lemmings.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

DDG lets you turn off the AI overview. That alone makes it miles better

[–] tb_@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ecosia can use either Google or Bing under the hood, and is working on its own search index along with Quant.

But, honestly, "it uses X under the hood" is such a reductive take. If you never give alternative search engines a try, they'll never gain the userbase to actually build their own foundation.
Using Google (or Bing) itself means you're contributing to the problem.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You're still contributing to the problem if whatever you use is literally paying Microsoft for every search you make.

[–] tb_@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You'd rather pay google?

I guess I'd rather pay google too. But I'd even rather support a third party search engine, even if that means a small portion of whatever revenue I generate goes to either microsoft or google in the short to medium term.

For what it's worth, it appears DDG is also working on their own index:

We also maintain our own crawler (DuckDuckBot) and many indexes to support our results. Of course, we have more traditional links and images in our search results too, which we largely source from Bing.

https://duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/sources

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Look until you see a thing that appears to be a not bullshit source.

Most people don't have this skill. And a lot of those web pages are going to be written by AI, too.

Search results being 80% ai generated is killing me internally smh 😣

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

KEEP SCROLLING, there is more stuff down there. Look until you see a thing that appears to be a not bullshit source.

Yeah, about that, sometimes there will be no not bullshit source or no relevant result at all even if bullshit. Depends on how complicated the question is, but search engines look to perform worse lately, too

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 2 points 3 weeks ago

This question is not complicated.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works -4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So Google good, Ai bad?

Is this an ad?

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 0 points 3 weeks ago

Are you stupid?