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The stepsister of a Colorado woman who was found dead along with her sister and teenage son at a remote Rocky Mountain campsite says the women fled into the wilderness after struggling to cope with societal changes in recent years, but they were unequipped to survive off the grid.

Exposed to several feet of snow, chills below zero and with no food found at their camp, Christine Vance, Rebecca Vance and Rebecca’s son likely died of malnutrition and hypothermia, according to the autopsies released this week. Authorities haven’t released the boy’s name.

Those reports contained another chilling detail that brought stepsister Trevala Jara to tears: The 14-year-old boy’s body was found with Jara’s favorite, blessed rosary that she gave the group before they left.

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[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 202 points 2 years ago (14 children)

“God was with them,” said Jara

Well God could've fucking helped a little bit then, eh?

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 64 points 2 years ago

He was a little busy forgiving a child rapist praying over one of their dozen victims.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 50 points 2 years ago

God: seen

[–] Endomlik@reddthat.com 26 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I always felt Wilson in the movie "Castaway" was the most realistic portrayal of God for survival situations.

[–] xkforce@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago

Wilson was real though.

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[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 18 points 2 years ago

He doesn’t lift a finger when a child is sexually abused by his representatives, he ain’t gonna give a shit here either.

Any god is evil.

[–] books@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Nah, all part of the plan.

/s

[–] IAmTheZeke@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't think god even exists. At least not the kind these poor creatures dreamed of

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago

Oh certainly not. If he existed as advertised, the whole Vatican would be brimstone and pillars of salt.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 70 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah, well fuck them. Except the kid. Fuck them for bringing the kid. You want to escape society, fine. But bring the kid after you've figured out how to survive in the wilderness.

[–] Nintendo@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

can you even imagine? in these situations the kid would be lucky if it died first. if not, the kid was kept alive by the adults long enough for it to watch the adults die, then the kid had to die alone in the tent while it waited in the cold just for nobody to come and help. poor thing. I'm terrified just writing this out.

[–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

People can't survive in the wilderness. At least without a decent size community to support them. There are folks who make it years alone with training and knowledge, but you are always just one mistake or circumstance away from death. Humans are not built to survive alone.

[–] fkn@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

The only way a small number of people survive alone is by having money and a large group of people to buy things from and have those things brought to them by the large group... Oh wait... That's not alone... Right right. My bad.

[–] m_r_butts@kbin.social 68 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Strewn across the ground were empty food containers and survival books

Please master the survival books before returning to monke.

[–] Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well 'They watched YouTube videos' so really what more could they have done?

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

It could have given them useful tips on edible mushrooms.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You're right!

Pours through Max Brook's Zombie Survival Guide

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

*Reads " The Road"*

Cool. Cool cool cool. Cooooool...

[–] Stoneykins@mander.xyz 50 points 2 years ago (2 children)

"Mountain campsite says the women fled into the wilderness after struggling to cope with societal changes in recent years"

I can relate to this.

...found with Jara’s favorite, blessed rosary that she gave the group before they left.

“God was with them,” said Jara

Oh, no I can't. Huh.

[–] duke@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 years ago

Just imagine how bad it would've been if God hadn't been with them! 😯

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 3 points 2 years ago

“God was with them,” said Jara

NARRATOR: "He wasn't."

[–] guyrocket@kbin.social 43 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't have all the details but this sounds like some very stupid campers.

I have done a lot of camping and I would be very cautious about camping "remote" in the Rockies. And no way in hell would I even dream About not taking food.

Sounds like they fucked around with nature and found out.

It also sounds like that boy was a victim of parental stupidity. I pity him.

[–] keeb420@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

yeah unless youre prepared to deal with the amount of snow that falls in the rockies and hunt/gather for food during that time its beyond reckless to try camping in those conditions. i knew someone that moved to alaska to do that with a buddy. they were way more prepared than these people and they came back within a year with their tails between their legs from mother nature kicking their ass.

[–] BobbyNevada@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago

The difference between them and your buddy is that your buddy knew when to quit.

[–] t0lo@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

well they definitely escaped society

[–] bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We live in a society

Bottom text 😔

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 1 points 2 years ago

They don't!

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

sharp as a whip

Oof

[–] popemichael@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I am tempted to do this as I have the training.

I also have type 1, which cuts my chances of doing it significantly.

I can make my own insulin, but that means boiling a lot of pancreas that are not mine. Turning me into a vampire like creature for others pancreatic juices...

[–] fkn@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Technically didn't that already make you a vampire... Just one that lives in a society where you pay money to a good of people to find and boil those pancreas for you?

[–] popemichael@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago

Now-a-days it's not made from pancreas, but I'm not confident enough to edit yeast DNA yet.

[–] Rev3rze@lemdit.com 1 points 2 years ago

Nah, insulin is produced by bacteria that have been edited to contain the genes to create insulin. No pancreas is harmed to make it.

[–] ClockworkOtter@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sorry, when you say you can do you mean you have, and used it?

[–] popemichael@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago

I have a small amateur lab at home, yep.

Its really easy to make once you know how. Though it takes a lot of prep and animal pancreas.

I'd rather use pharma insulin though. I only learned for SHTF reasons.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago

Someone told them they were too stupid to live, and they said “hold my cheese whiz”

[–] sugarfree@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The hiker must have had the surprise of his life. Really sad that the campers didn't have adequate supplies, wouldn't wish that situation on my worst enemy.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I try to have more competent enemies

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

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[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 1 points 2 years ago

There are certainly easier and less unpleasant ways to end your life. I always feel bad for the kid in these situations. He didn't choose to have guardians so incompetent at life they couldn't look after him.

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