That's what you get for trusting Microsoft with anything...or Google...or Apple...or Facebook... stop tying your communication to these companies, they can pull the rug at any time.
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You have to trust someone with these communications, there is no free communication beyond face to face
Matrix (federated) or Briar (multi-modal P2P) are both good options for getting rid of dependency on central organizations.
Still need an ISP. ISPs are pretty centralized and monolithic for lots of people.
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You're assuming that people in Gaza have consistent access to the internet. The beauty of Skype is that you can call a landline through it.
Unless you build your own, you have to trust your ISP to move packets, but you don't have to rely on any third party services or give them your personal info to use social media.
Fully decentralized, open-source, and encrypted social networks exist. The only servers needed are your computer and the computers of the friends you communicate with. (See: Retroshare )
They're just never going to get big because small, personal friend-to-friend networks can't compete with the network effects of centralized media and a never-ending torrent of dopamine on tap.
From my comment above:
You're assuming that people in Gaza have consistent access to the internet. The beauty of Skype is that you can call a landline through it.
dead link?
Whoops, somehow managed to typo it. Fixed now.
Signal is right there.
Signal is centrally hosted thus it's proverbial rug can be pulled.
Wait until you find out about internet service providers
You can have more than one dumb pipe to push bits through, but if the ISP can read your network traffic then you have bigger problems than a single-point-of-failure.
Do you have more than one ISP?
I'm very lucky in that regard. Not only do we have a local ISP and mobile service from a national carrier, but the electric co-op that provides our power just ran 2.5Gb/s fiber through the neighborhood and lets members use 200Mb/s on it for free.
Who doesn't?
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and Threema
Threema is what signal should have been.
But I ain't got in me to start forcing people again lol
Signal it is until it is proven untrustworthy
Yeah, they’re both good (still).
| features | Threema | Signal |
|---|---|---|
| price | $5 / 5€ | Free |
| account creation | phone number optional | phone number required |
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Not true at all lol, have you heard of peer-to-peer?
This is what net neutrality and anti-trust laws are for.
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Your average person doesn't know of any communication method other than mega corps.
Yor right I will just use my billions of dollars to build a global internet infrastructure and make my posts on my own phone using the os I just built in my spare time for fun its not about trust its about necessity
That's what you get
You're right, they deserve this. You asshole.
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MS probably doesn’t care who calls who. I’d be surprised if this wasn’t a government issued order and they can’t disclose it.
Governments don't order such specificity. They would have, at most, told M$ that Skype is being used by Hamas and that there would be an audit on the situation, so M$ over-corrected to be better safe than sorry
Fucking disgusting
Reeks of governmental intervention
This is a pretty misleading article. They cite the BBC "investigation" as a source, but if you go to the BBC article you'll quickly see it's not an investigation or anything near that. It's just a reporting of the anecdotes of 3 individuals who happen to be Palestinians living abroad. You can't establish any type of conclusions on a sample size that small.
This isn't a study, it's not a survey, it's not a poll, it doesn't prove that Microsoft is intentionally making these bans, it doesn't track down the actual reasons for the bans, or anything really. The BBC article is fine for what it is, just a reporting of a mildly interesting event, but this windoscentral article is just bad bait.
It’s not misleading. It’s reporting on the BBC article as it was originally published.
The BBC article was subsequently edited down to remove key information while no comment or retraction was made. This isn’t surprising as many journalist who work for the BBC have accused their editors of bias.
This is why media literacy is important. If you knew how media outlets operate it would be easy to figure out what happened in this case.
While that is a good catch, the only two differences between the original article and the edited one is that they removed the statement where they mentioned they've spoken to 20 Palestinians living abroad and added a little paragraph that mentions the number of causalities that were caused by the war. The contents of the article are still largely the same. The original article still isn't an investigation like the windowscentral article claims. It's just a reporting of the experiences of the 20 or so individuals they've spoken to, where again, only 3 individuals are highlighted. I don't see anything wrong with the BBC article, my issue is with the way that windowscentral framed the BBC article.
Also for the record, while the BBC has it's biases, Al Jazeera is a Qatari state owned propaganda outlet. They're not credible on most things, but especially when it comes to anything relating to the middle east. Take anything they say with a tub of salt.
wait so you're telling me in addition to checking the cited material, I have to now check if the cited material was edited? no one fuckin told me that what the hell
Well, fuck Microsoft now more so.
The corpos can fuck you over any time for any reason. If your data is not held on your own infrastructure, it's not your data. If your computer runs Windows, it's not your computer.
Ban me too while you’re at it, so I never have to use your shitty software ever again
Genuinely shocking and disgusting. What is Microsoft's problem with people just trying to live their lives? They absolutely need a class action lawsuit over this. I'm so glad I just switched to Ubuntu as my default and now really don't want to give this sh*thole company another cent.
Holy balls we are living in the wild west era of the internet.
Shit needs to be regulated.
Just I'm not super confident regulation will come in the form of mandatory encryption at rest, end-to-end encryption by default and only not when necessary, banning selling data to 3rd parties, being able to quickly and speedily unban unjustly banned accounts by regulator intervention (like this one).
Terms of service are bullshit when our entire digital identities are attached to emails.
Looking around, the regulation we'll see will instead be in the form "nothing to fear if you've got nothing to hide."
I can daydream, though.
The digital genocide of Palestinians hath commenced.
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