MAGA complaining that this is the federal big government getting involved in issues that they shouldn't, ignoring that the state ban is doing exactly that for personal health for women. This needs to set a precedent to use, or rather a loophole for hospitals to use regardless of a state ban that threatens doctors with legal action for doing their job.
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Problem with that is the Supreme Court has eliminated the impact of precedent by reversing many decisions including Roe v Wade that were based on it. So without a federal law in place, the doctors would still face years of expensive court proceedings before getting a federal appeals trial and the inability to work due to loss of state medical license until their particular case was settled. So that's not much to assure doctors. Really most of the obstetricians will just leave those states. I hate that idea and it will likely take decades to replenish the workforce if the states were to reverse course or a federal law were to ever make its way through Congress to clarify what's legal.
Some few people with a conscience might be horrified when they learn that the policies they worked so hard to get passed caused massive loss of life for mothers and infants, but many will think the price was worth it.
Enough people believe women are lesser beings (including many women which is especially sad), mostly because the religious texts almost all say as much, but also hubris. So it's always been accepted by the majority of societies that if there's a chance of brining one male child into this world, that's more important than the mother, not only that but worth all the deaths of all the women who were evil enough to want to not be forced to give birth.
You can resolve the paradox by remembering that MAGA isn't arguing anything in good faith. At all.
The entirety of the GOP broke laws of humanity when they started this shit. The only proper punishment is to disband them and shut them down.
Let’s just close hospitals in red states and put up border checks on blue states and see how this plays out. Sorey, go vote.
Yes harass the hospital for being caught between federal and state law. For trying to toe the fine line between it. If this continues it would not be a wonder if the hospitals shutter their maternal wings.
This consequence, the poor lady's death, was warned by all the sane people when the state laws were being passed. Harassing doctors and hospital for law makers fault is not right.