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Might be a good idea to define what you consider an "extreme liberal". Nowadays, an extreme liberal can often times be used as a label for people advocating for human rights and calling out the bad faith actors while a moderate is someone who says "Hold on, let's hear out why these people are ethnically cleansing a population. Maybe they make good points".

How are you defining "far extreme liberal"?

I think giving an example of an extreme liberal would help answer the question. Did you have some public figure in mind? If not, what are some examples of their beliefs that you’re wanting to push them to the center on?

deprogram an extreme liberal

Read Das Kapital to them

towards center

They're already in the "center"

OP asked the same question about extreme conservatives yesterday but it's not the same question, and doesn't have the same answers. Much of the right has gone further right, then looks at the left and says "they are farther away than they used to be"

"Deprogramming" makes sense in the sense for the far right because there is a lot of misinformation and fake news and outrage bait and all that kind of stuff. Getting people out of those trappings is good because it allows them to see how things really are, rather than what people want them to think.

That isn't really a problem with the left. I mean, I'm sure you could find some extreme subreddit somewhere where people want to bring out the guillotine to kill all capitalists or cut everyone's genitals off in the name of gender equality... But ultimately they're much rarer than the equivalent alt right spaces.

Extreme conservatives are very common and an existential threat to many groups. Extreme liberals are a mild curiosity that need to go out and touch grass.

That should hopefully explain the votes, saying that you need to deprogram "extreme liberals" brings up questions about what you actually mean by "extreme liberal" given that it really isn't that big an issue in society.

... Or maybe all this is just my biases.

Didn't you post a somewhat opposite yesterday using "Republican"?

Those two terms aren't even close to equivalent in this context.

You need to define what you mean, a LOT. At least start with equivalent labels.

Firstly, I would say, hey, I respect that you don't think people should die hungry in the streets. Yup, that's about it.

I wouldn't.

In fact, I would try to deprogram anyone who thinks anyone should.

Very simple. You just need to explain how guys like Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos have clearly always had all the best ideas and should be given completely free reign to do anything they want with our country, with no checks whatsoever, for however long they want. This will clearly make all of our lives much, much better in every way.

Deprogram them from what, exactly? From not being hateful little shits that wanna get rid of everything and everyone that isn't exactly like them?

Wow I did not interpret the term "liberal" at all in the same way that you have. Liberalism as an ideology is centrist at best, right of center at worst if you consider the overton window in developed nations other than the US.

Objectifying people is never a good look.

You can’t go wrong just asking questions.

Make them live in Downton Abbey

Accept them. Understand them and what they say and why. Have fun and tell a joke they'll like. Let go of trying to change them and let it happen naturally over time.