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[–] yarr@feddit.nl 30 points 56 minutes ago (3 children)

I fucking HATE these clickbait headlines. Read the dang article and look at the quotes:

"I’m going to create these wellness farms where they can go to get off of illegal drugs, off of opiates, but also illegal drugs, other psychiatric drugs, if they want to, to get off of SSRIs, to get off of benzos, to get off of Adderall, and to spend time as much time as they need — three or four years if they need it— to learn to get reparented, to reconnect with communities," he said during the broadcast. (emphasis added)

RFK is a total whackjob, but it's pretty clear he's talking about some kind of voluntary "farm therapy" (which probably isn't demonstrably effective anyway) and not a concentration camp.

PLEASE we got enough bombastic language and clickbait over the Biden years. There are PLENTY of things wrong with the actual quote above without taking us into clickbait territory.

Let's criticize him on the grounds of being scientific but proposing very un-scientific actions. Let's criticize him for proposing ineffective solutions, but please, focus on his ACTUAL statement instead of trying to fluff it into some goddamn headline.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 38 minutes ago (1 children)

Time to add futurism.com to my block list. What a useless rag.

[–] yarr@feddit.nl 3 points 23 minutes ago

100% They are part of the death of journalism. Inaccurate, hyped headlines that disagree with the body of the article. Designed to get "engagement" and not to inform. Fuck them.

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 2 points 39 minutes ago (2 children)

Stop fucking sane washing him. "If they want to" is a dubious statement coming from anyone in this authoritarian administration.

The fact that he brings up "reparenting", it seems fairly obvious that this is going to be done by authority of the state. He's talking about taking people's kids away from them if they medicate their children as recommended by their doctors.

[–] yarr@feddit.nl 7 points 24 minutes ago

Stop fucking sane washing him

You'll notice I called him a "total whackjob". I do not say he is sane. However, I wish to criticize what he ACTUALLY said instead of some bombastic caricature of his plan. In no way do I support or endorse RFK, but let's be accurate with our criticism.

[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 1 points 4 minutes ago

Focus on the topic at hand. Making up all these statements will just make people roll their eyes when or if it actually happens. Don’t be the boy who cried wolf.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 13 minutes ago (1 children)

Sure, totally voluntary. With barbed wire, guards, prison gangs, and court orders. Just like the reform schools for teenagers.

[–] yarr@feddit.nl 1 points 5 minutes ago

You should go write for futurism.com.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 34 minutes ago

Pol Pot: why not go with the OG version?

[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 1 points 7 minutes ago

I don't think they'll be much help without the Adderall.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 2 points 4 minutes ago

I think this is how they plan on making up for immigrant labor.

But lol if you want systemic food shortages this is a great way to go. Farm labor isn’t easy, it can’t be carried out by someone who is addicted enough to the point that they need this farm to get better. Farm labor needs to be reliant and self-directed, and drug addicts are not reliable and can barely direct their lives.

People on depression or adhd meds are not necessarily drug addicts. I can’t believe we have such incompetent people in charge now.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 15 minutes ago

As someone who takes Adderall I’m less worried about that than about him attempting to reschedule it to I from II

[–] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

That's great Trump won't last a day in the labor camp.

[–] irreticent@lemmy.world 1 points 13 minutes ago

"Labor camps for thee, not for me." -Trump

Fuck that.

I strongly dislike how the argument hinges on the very movable goalpost of "illegal" drugs. It has this awful moralizing "protect the kids while we destroy privacy", vibe to it.

At first I though this would require an end-run on HIPAA, but all they really need to do is re-schedule a bunch of therapeutic drugs. Or ignore the FDA entirely and just enforce a ban by edict (somehow) through a different agency. I don't think we've ever seen federal agencies openly disagree like that before, but I think it's possible. Also: big pharma may have something to say about all this.

Like a lot of the nonsense coming from this cabinet, it'll test the crap out of state's rights.

[–] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 hours ago

what the hell. staying in Canada.

[–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 45 points 3 hours ago

So they're just already saying the "camps" part out loud, eh? I guess when you have Hitler's playbook, you can move faster than Hitler did.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago

When it comes to the brainworm guy - if he really plans on banning vaccines - is he trying to kill off all the old people? Is he trying to kill off all the children?

[–] Freefall@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

I am not fan of RFK or any of this incoming administration, but I have to admit....those are going to be the most productive camps in the entire world! 🤣

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago

What the actual fuck.

[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 27 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

This is part of some rural grift facilities which probably started with "trouble teens". In recent years I've seen reports of these "farms" for "distressed" women. It's usually a place with Ranch in the name. Example: https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2021/11/18/the-christian-maternity-ranch-in-texas-is-a-disaster-in-the-making/

Permaculture farms, for example, are already well known for relying on abusive work conditions. See Joel Salatin:

https://medium.com/permaculture-3-0/fall-of-a-hero-f9ac80a08c0c

https://www.motherjones.com/food/2020/11/joel-salatin-chris-newman-farming-rotational-grazing-agriculture/

[–] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Are these the same people that abduct teens at night and bring them to these camps where they die of dehydration?

[–] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 32 minutes ago (1 children)

Those are more like wilderness survival training, except nobody in charge has any wilderness survival training of their own.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 9 minutes ago

He mentioned SSRIs in the article. Now I'm imagining a bunch of PTSD infantry combat vets laughing their ass off at the instructor.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 18 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

If he comes for my antidepressants he can haul me off but he can't make me cooperate.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 8 minutes ago

It's going to be like those troubled teenager reform schools. They will torture non compliance.

[–] Zier@fedia.io 38 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Is he not aware that the fascist pumpkin he will be working for pops those like breath mints?? Please do send that rapist con man to a labor camp.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 2 minutes ago

Internal consistency was never their strong point.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 32 points 4 hours ago

Yes I am sure not being hypocrites is high on their list of concerns

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

The death cultists: It only counts if you have a prescription.

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