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Senate GOP leader Mitch McConnell reportedly warned that there will be no recess appointments, directly opposing Donald Trump’s plan to bypass Senate confirmation for controversial cabinet nominees, including Matt Gaetz.

Gaetz has faced allegations of drug use and sexual misconduct.

McConnell’s stance sparked widespread discussion about a looming constitutional showdown.

Critics argue recess appointments could undermine Senate authority and pose national security risks.

Observers question McConnell’s influence, noting potential leadership changes, while others see this as a critical test of Senate integrity against Trump-aligned Republicans.

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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 168 points 4 hours ago (7 children)

Just a reminder that Mitch McConnell could have prevented this not once but twice.

Good luck (seriously) trying to keep the monster you created and continuously enabled under control. I also hate that I'm implicitly rooting for McConnell here.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 1 points 32 minutes ago

When the worst guy starts fighting a twice as worst guy, you have a relative good guy to root for.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 57 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Don't worry, Trump now will see him as The Enemy and use everything at his disposal against him.

McConnell just might be the first one to draw the ire this term.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 48 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Don't worry, Trump now will see him as The Enemy and use everything at his disposal against him.

I mean, probably. Unfortunately, McConnell's actually right for once. Whether he's right for the right reasons is irrelevant at the moment.

[–] Xanis@lemmy.world 15 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

The enemy of my enemy.

We can agree with him and root for him. Just keep in mind who he is and what he's done. Don't allow a short memory to curb that perspective.

In the meantime, while the monsters fight we should be collectively working to shore up things in our communities. I'm working on mine.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

We're still pissing on his grave.

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 37 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Just thinking back to how easy it would have been to never have Trump in our lives again, to get off this worst timeline, if just a handful of people had a tiny bit of courage at the impeachment trials.

Maybe they all thought he was cooked and they could once again forget about doing the right thing one more time, to endear themselves to his rabid supporters. It's dizzying to think they could have protected the Constitution with a single word, and failed to do even that.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 10 points 3 hours ago

Stop depressing me with a historically accurate recounting of events that happened.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

The impeachment vote shouldn't have been a public ballot. If it had been private I have little to no doubt he'd have been gone the secondtime, possibly the first. Pence was middling but he knows the game.

[–] LePoisson@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Hear me out, people could not have voted for this bullshit.

We get what we deserve. I can only hope we manage to preserve our republic and we don't become an autocracy. An oligarchy is bad enough as is.

[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 17 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The good news is in party fighting is s good sign that they won't be able to consolidate power as quickly or completely as they wanted to. The bad news is, they now know who to come for on the night of long knives.

[–] jaxxed@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

There is consensus that the current nominations for cabinet are heavily oriented to separating the disloyaistlls in order to define targets. McTurtle in his prime was a competitor, but I imagine it will be easy to move against him these days

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago

Bad people can do good things sometimes, and you should never interrupt or shame them for doing it. Many people on the internet forget that.

[–] ChocoboRocket@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Never thought I'd see the day where I hoped a McConnell plan would work in any capacity.

He's allowed Trump to exist so project 2025 can happen.

Moscow Mitch will do anything to make project 2025 happen, maybe he was convinced the "normal" Republicans can mitigate Trump's penchant for treason and sedition against America and that mitigation risk was worth the project 2025 payout.

Hopefully he is right about mitigating Trump. Otherwise, I hope McConnell is the first Republican publicly executed because Trump absolutely wants to be able to publicly execute anyone he doesn't like.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

As much as he probably wants to please Big Daddy Trump I think he also wants to assert himself a little by saying, "Here's your McDonald's. I took a few fries and yes, I'll do it next time too."

[–] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Also McConnell: Votes to confirm

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 16 minutes ago

He likes to be in the same room and watch while we all get fucked.

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 40 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] whithom@discuss.online 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Please tell me Trump isn’t Bugs.

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 13 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

My take is Bugs is the embodiment of society as a whole, but since Trump is bigger and heavier than Sam, the edge of the cliff will break off and we all go off the edge together.

[–] whithom@discuss.online 5 points 2 hours ago

Oh, yes. This makes sense.

[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 13 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Fair chance that this has more to do with Gabbard than Gaetz. She's close with Russian state media and was put in change of US Intelligence. Obviously a Trojan horse.

[–] Maultasche@lemmy.world 2 points 38 minutes ago

Why would Moscow Mitch have an issue with that?

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 26 points 4 hours ago (4 children)

The Senate can't turn down too many Trump appointees until they are looked on as an obstruction to their own party. So, you'll definitely lose Gaetz, but Trump has flooded the zone with incompetence.

[–] Catma@lemmy.world 1 points 13 minutes ago

I am starting to believe the theory Trump is putting up the worst possible people so when one gets rejected he can try to force Congress to adjourn and then appoint whomever he wants which will be 100% worse.

Not that Trump thought of this but someone, Miller, is pulling the strings

Yup, Gaetz and (if the GOP does the minimum of trying to protect this country) Gabbard are the sacrificial lambs to get through Hegseth, RFK and already too many others to count.

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 14 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Donnie boy is always testing the waters, testing the limits. It's an extreme version of what the GOPers have been doing for years. Ask for a 150% of what's reasonable, and then act all butt hurt when they only get 125%. We've seen this game before. There's nothing new coming out of the "grand" Old party. smh.

[–] whithom@discuss.online -3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Well those are just basic negotiation skills.

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 1 points 37 minutes ago

If so then the Dems need to learn some basic negotiation skills. But I don't agree. The two parties are supposed to represent all of the US, and what they should be negotiating for is those policies that are in the best interest of all US citizens. I hope you'll agree that is not the case.

[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

We can only hope for incompetence, the real danger is a malicious and competent appointment.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Fair point, however, incompetency at Secetary of Homeland, for instance, makes you less safe.

[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Incompetence in Trumps first term usually led to not much being done and retention of the status quo.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I said it was a fair point.

I also said there were exceptions.

[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 40 minutes ago

You are correct in both points.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 22 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

"Donald, it has to at least look like we gave you some oversight."

[–] JakenVeina@lemm.ee 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Right? McConnel has kinda always been the GOP's fall guy in the senate. The one who takes all the heat for unpopular shit, when the entire party is actually on board. Donny probably just didn't get the memo.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 4 points 1 hour ago

He got the memo, but he ate it before anyone was able to read it to him.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 20 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I'll be more stunned if McConnel or other Republicans don't cave and just go along with it.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 3 points 35 minutes ago

We live in a world where we're looking for Mitch McConnell to do the right thing? Oh yeah, we're absolutely fucked.

[–] ATDA@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Either I see a challenge to a runaway Trump, or I see the death cry of McConnell's political career destroyed by Trump psychopaths.

Silver linings.

[–] NeoToasty@kbin.melroy.org 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

This will mean nothing since McConnell is retiring or has retired already.

Yeah, republicans often find even a microscopic backbone once they no longer are running for reelection. In this case, it probably will be "I said no for a few weeks before I said yes."

[–] Breve@pawb.social 4 points 3 hours ago

GOP members with faces slowly waking up to the fact they got a hungry face eating leopard into the White House.

[–] IHeartBadCode@fedia.io 5 points 3 hours ago

Senate GOP leader Mitch McConnell reportedly warned that there will be no recess appointments

Recess appointments stopped being a thing in 2016 altogether and really the water source was shut off back in Obama who only got 32 as Pro Forma became popular in Congress.

I am seriously doubtful that the House wants to get rid of Pro Forma nor would they risk a Section III dismissal to appease Trump.

As much as Trump is power hungry, so too are a ton of GOP members of Congress equally hungry.

[–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Checks and balances are working.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

LOL let's see something actually get blocked before we conclude that. This is merely a delay.

[–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

We already did - McConnell blocked Trump's pick for the next senate majority leader last week.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 1 points 3 minutes ago

McConnell is leaving office and very soon will be irrelevant. Sure, it's great that something was blocked before he's in office, but it doesn't tell us anything about what will happen after.