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[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 28 points 3 hours ago

Putting beans in the green texts now smh

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 27 points 4 hours ago (6 children)

Everyone always laughs at hitting someone in the head with a punch/can of beans/baseball bat/2x4/karate chop/whatever and knock them out. The joke being that the person will wake in ten minutes or an hour like in the movies and they'll go about living again.

In real life if you knock someone out cold with some kind of hit to their head ... you've more than likely killed them or put them in a place where they will die within the next hour or two.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 14 points 1 hour ago

Being knocked out is certainly not good, but it's not automatic death like you're suggesting.

[–] yokonzo@lemmy.world 59 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

That is... Incorrect, there is about a 30% death rate within one year of brain trauma but there is absolutely no data showing that someone is going to die within an hour of being knocked unconscious more often than not, especially if they are young

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 hour ago (3 children)

I'm not saying that you're wrong. You sound like you might know what you're talking about. I just like publications and medical evidence. I trust that you won't take it the wrong way.

That is... Incorrect, there is about a 30% death rate within one year of brain trauma [...]

Source?

[...] but there is absolutely no data showing that someone is going to die within an hour of being knocked unconscious more often than not, [...]

Do you have a metastudy or something for that?

especially if they are young

That last sentence, do you have a source for the difference in outcome depending on the patient's age?

[–] yokonzo@lemmy.world 13 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Bricolo, A., Turazzi, S., & Feriotti, G. (1980). Prolonged posttraumatic unconsciousness: therapeutic assets and liabilities.. Journal of neurosurgery, 52 5, 625-34 . https://doi.org/10.3171/JNS.1980.52.5.0625.

And it's not on me to find the burden of truth for you. That's a logical fallacy and a bad arguing tactic

[–] thetreesaysbark@sh.itjust.works 3 points 46 minutes ago (1 children)

A weird amount of people were triggered by you asking for evidence. A reflection on our times.

[–] valentinesmith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 37 minutes ago

Maybe, but they could’ve also posted the same request for citations on the first poster but did not.

I think that really does reflect how someone can just say whatever and when challenged we are biased to only assume the second opinion as doubtful.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 3 points 1 hour ago

Source?

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/15038-concussion This work (not for the 30% thing but just in general)?

[–] arin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 1 points 55 minutes ago

She just stole a loaf of bread. Her sister's child was close to death, she was starving.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 16 points 3 hours ago

~~Skill~~ Skull issue

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

And even if you haven't killed them outright, they can have permanent disabilities.

If you, or someone you know, gets knocked out, or experiences other symptoms of a central nervous system trauma after a hit to the head, please seek medical care immediately. It's not one those "take two aspirin and let's see how it goes in the morning" kinda things.

I'm just one person, but during my life I've seen this multiple times. I will refrain from boring you, and doxxing myself, by telling my anecdotes. Suffice it to say that I have known people who would have been dead if they hadn't gone to work with a "bad hangover", or ended up with narcolepsy or chronic encephalopathy. And that was separate people BTW.

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

So I once slipped on a puddle while jogging (in the wrong place) and hit the back of my head on sedimentary tiles.
Since I had stiffened my neck, trying to stretch it backward (yes I was doing that while jogging on wet tiles), my head hit the ground hard.
After about 2 minutes, I fainted for ~10 seconds. Was fine later.

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

That's the problem with anecdotal evidence. You can always find that one person who fulfills the criteria but who's outcome doesn't match.

Of course you can be fine afterwards. But there's a considerable risk that you're not, and experiencing symptoms of a traumatic head injury does warrant a visit to the hospital.

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 4 points 1 hour ago

Of course I visited the hospital for a CT scan.

Of course I'm not telling you to hit your head for fun.

This is just a fun story, not evidence for anything.

People have survived failed parachutes. Doesn't mean we can all be Alex Mercer.

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 hours ago
[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 6 points 3 hours ago

Crocodile dundee moment