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Summary

Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, Kamala Harris’ 2024 running mate, has suggested he may run for president in 2028.

Reflecting on the Democrats’ loss to Donald Trump and JD Vance, he admitted: “A large number of people did not believe we were fighting for them in the last election – and that’s the big disconnect.”

Walz said his life experience, rather than ambition, would guide his decision.

Though his VP campaign was marred by gaffes, he remains open to running if he feels prepared.

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[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 293 points 2 years ago (20 children)

I'm not convinced there will be an election in 2028...

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 111 points 2 years ago (2 children)

There won't at the current trajectory. There won't even be midterms.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 85 points 2 years ago (17 children)

I remember Republicans checking out on elections back in 2018 because they bought hard into the Trump "elections are rigged" propaganda. The GOP lost seven Senate seats that year as conservative turnout plunged.

I wonder if Democrats will make the same mistake in 2026.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 62 points 2 years ago

No, I don't think Democrats are ready to make new mistakes yet. They still won't abandon their devotion to the old mistakes.

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[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 59 points 2 years ago

There will, but it won't be a fair one. They have "elections" in Russia, too.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There will absolutely be an election.

It will be a farce, a Russian election where there's only one possibility to win.

If we're not pitchforks in the street before then, I don't hold much hope

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 24 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Or maybe a Hungary-style election where the entire media landscape shills for the ruling class and people on social media are bombarded with misinformation and one-sided reporting.

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[–] astutemural@midwest.social 253 points 2 years ago (12 children)

The Harris campaign had to cover the governor’s tracks when he tripped up during a California fundraiser by stating that the constitutionally-mandated system used to select the president, otherwise known as the electoral college, “needs to go”.

How the hell is that a gaffe? It's both the truth and exactly what people want to hear. Any lib who thinks like that needs to kindly keep their mouths shut for the next four years. This country needs radical change, the only choice you get is which one you want.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago

Here, let me grab a sharpie and fix that.

The Harris campaign made a cowardly attempt to walk back the governor's statements when he said during a California fundraiser that the broken election systems used for gerrymandering and enabling the double elections of Donald Trump, "needs to go".

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[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 141 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Him calling the GOP weird was not a gaffe but the campaign made him walk away from that language because it might offend potential turncoats. The fact he is internalizing the criticism worries me.

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 57 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

My only "problem" with the weird-comments were that they were overused. While it is certainly true, and Waltz had every reason to call it out, supporters often kept repeating it in the context of "look how triggered Republicans are by this". After a while it gave me the same vibe as people shoehorning "let's go brandon" into every situation.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

After a while it gave me the same vibe as people shoehorning “let’s go brandon” into every situation.

Except that....worked?

One of the takeaways from the 2024 election is that if you have something that works, repetition is key for the idiot American electorate.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 27 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Yeah, interesting how the Harris campaign had all the momentum after the Waltz nomination, then pivoted back to neoliberal wonkiness and then crashed and burned again.

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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 89 points 2 years ago (16 children)

Oh man I can't wait for right-wing/foreign propaganda to tell progressives what they should hate about Walz.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 47 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And don't forget this from a russian propagandist in 2015 (archived reddit link):

“Once we isolate key people, we look for people we know are in their upstream – people that they read posts from, but who themselves are less influential. We then either start flame wars with bots to derail the conversations that are influencing influential people, or else send off specific tasks for sockpuppets (changing this wording of an idea here; cause an ideological split there; etc).”

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (4 children)

To be fair it doesn't take much to cause an idealogical split between leftists.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (34 children)

I'm more interested in seeing if democrats hold honest primaries.

Or primaries at all.

Continue to pretend that every criticism from your left is from your right. It makes it easier to blame the left you hate when you lose to the right you admire.

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[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 86 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Tim Walz unleashed would have won this.

He was hamstrug by Harris. He’s likely the dem’s best choice for 2028.

So of course they’ll run Newsome or Shapiro or Hillary Clinton again because they’re a bunch of idiots.

[–] isaaclw@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago (6 children)

And Harris was hamstrung by Biden.

She could have been better.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (12 children)

She is a cop. She dropped out in 15th place in the 2020 primary before she was embarrassed in her home state of California. They should have never ran her and that's why they didn't do a primary.

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[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 61 points 2 years ago (62 children)
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[–] knightmare1147@lemmy.world 59 points 2 years ago (11 children)
[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Bernie's going to be almost 90 years old by then

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 55 points 2 years ago (28 children)

Fuckin should have been the nominee in the first place - him or Sanders.

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[–] madjo@feddit.nl 51 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Bold of him to assume there will be elections in 2028.

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[–] drascus@sh.itjust.works 50 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Thinking there is going to be a real election in 2028 is the most optimistic thing I've heard in a while.

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[–] DukeHawthorne@lemmy.world 40 points 2 years ago (3 children)

It's cute that he thinks there will be an election in 2028, or ever again, for that matter.

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 39 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’d vote for him, given that we’re still allowed to vote.

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[–] OccultIconoclast@reddthat.com 37 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (24 children)

Walz was great in 2024. He had enthusiasm and actually answered the interviewers' questions. I would have preferred the symbolic victory of a black woman president, but I like Walz better as an individual person. I think he could have won if he'd been the presidential candidate. Well, Harris won too, but I mean he could have won even with the voter suppression stealing all those democratic votes.

President Walz and Vice President Cortez is the future we need. But probably not the future we'll get.

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[–] FahrenheitGhost@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Personally, I'm hoping Zelensky will run for US president after strong Dien in Ukraine. You might be thinking that someone from another country can't be president. Well.... looks at current situation in White House At least this one would be elected.

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[–] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago

It's cute that they think there's gonna be another election.

[–] GooberEar@lemmy.wtf 30 points 2 years ago (3 children)

He's got some things going for him. Male. Presumably heterosexual. Caucasian. Old (but perhaps not quite old enough). I say go for it.

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 28 points 2 years ago

He's got the stink of Biden/Harris on him, but he's got four years to wash that off.

Let's see if he does, or if he thinks cozeying up to establishment Dems is the ticket to victory.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

We could do (and have done) a lot worse. My only concern is whether or not he has the backbone to refuse to be steered to the right, the way Kamala was after the convention. His Midwestern politeness definitely didn't serve him well in the debate.

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[–] Floon@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 years ago

Yeah, let's keep alive the existence of Walz's couple of misstatements, while ignoring the insane, senile nonsense that Trump spews on the hour. Fuck the media.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not my 1st choice, but will vote for any democrat, no matter what. I’d prefer that every republican fuck off and die, painfully.

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