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[–] yarr@feddit.nl 25 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Ironically, retard was originally a kinder word cooked up to describe people with lower intelligence, along with moron, idiot, cretin, and imbecile. Over time these became pejoratives. Just kind of interesting to see how language develops and terms intended to avoid offense over time turn into ones that offend people.

[–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yes, when you come up with a word to describe people that others consider less/worse than themselves, they will invariably end up using the word to describe them as an insult to others. This will happen no matter how mundane or non offensive you try to make the word.

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[–] WuceBrillis@lemm.ee 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, i never really stopped calling people like Rogan and Trump retarded... But calling it a great cultural victory, is just... Retarded.

[–] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Rogan really being a gay retard here

[–] Fenrir@lemmings.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How this fucking australopithecus became a thought leader, I will never understand.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

He's a morons idea of a clever person. That's how

[–] MissJinx@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm not american and don't care about politics but I was watching a show the other day and when Rogan appeared as a guest I had to shut off after 5 minutes. This person is so annoying I couldn't stand. Don't know how you guys do it. I didn't even liked him in newsradio and I loved the show.

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago

That's crazy. Anyway, have you tried DMT?

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[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Retarded is what you call your friends when they're being retarded

Michael Scott

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Joe Rogan has really sold out to his mentally absent base. What a victory for them.

[–] Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 189 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Lol, I'll never understand these people. The word "retard" was never gone. At no point was it illegal or impossible to say it, similar to any other word. The worst consequence for saying something that's bound to piss people off is just that, pissed off people. You never faced jail time and I can't think of anyone "canceled" for it.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemm.ee 62 points 2 days ago (5 children)

They want to drop the hard R with zero blowback.

[–] Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 38 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Unfortunately for them they don't get to control how others feel about it. They're free to say it at any time though. All the redneck cowards I live near use it all the time, when no black people are around.

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[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 210 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It must be nice to have so much money and freedom from consequences that that's the kind of thing that bothers you.

[–] gamer@lemm.ee 72 points 2 days ago

Or such little money and brain cells that that's the thing that inspires you to go out and vote against your own interests

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[–] DrownedRats@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Honestly, if the culture war has been going on this long and the "greatest victory" they can show for it is feeling comfortable using the r slur again, thats just deeply sad for them lol.

[–] witnessbolt@lemm.ee 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)

I think wayyyyy more people than you realize say it. Even people you think are raging leftists. Most of us got quiet because we in general agree with left leaning things. Feel free to skim my profile...

But man... fucking EVERYONE says retarded. I'm very left leaning. Once I got away from a few select people... it was genuinely kind of a culture shock for me how many people say it lol.

I'm not advocating for people to just sling it like crazy.. and I know in a way that's kind of what's gonna happen to SOME EXTENT... but as someone who tried to push other folks toward not saying this in the past....

I 100% think it's a lost cause. I don't think it's going away. I don't personally think it's ableist and never did.

To make a comparison, from my perspective, it's kind of like turning the word "insane" into a slur.... we did some reaaaal bad things to people under the veil they were "insane." We put people in jail and mental hospital for most of their lives. We fried their brains with medication and lobotomized them both chemically and physically. It's not as common, but it is 100% an insult to tell someone they are insane or acting insane (I mean if they're bashing their skull into a tree or somethin that IS insane but that would also be an extreme example to call someone retarded over)

But we don't get upset about calling people insane today... everything has context and I think the context of retard has moved on from why people are offended.

A more apt comparison is being equally mad you called someone slow... I mean... retard is literally a word for slow in French... it kinda really only become ableist when someone wants it to be interpreted that way. At what point is simply calling someone stupid not also then ableist? Are we gonna crucify people if they use any other insult beyond "ignorant" that doesn't indicate the insultee's willingness in their stupidity? Or is "you lack/display a lack of intelligence" (the definition of stupidity) somehow more classy than slow and retarded in your eyes?

My 2c is that unless you expect to erase the word (you're not going to) you're better off helping to change the meaning in common view (most of us just think it means ya RLY RLY fkin dumb but use a word beyond stupid or idiot) and steal it back from them. Grinding to death and dividing OURSELVES internally over shit this nonsensical is killing us.

It's an easy code switch that uses their language against them and makes you more credible in their eyes 🤷🏻 as an ally I'm just saying not every battle can be won the way you originally wanted it to be

TLDR: bunch of different justifications for why I call MAGATs retards when they make stupid points in arguments

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[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Sorry guys, this one's locked now. Y'all need to grow the fuck up.

[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Just in case anyone had begun to consider that Joe Rogan is anything but an absolute infected boil on the ass of civilization.

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.world 86 points 2 days ago (10 children)

It never left. Using it still makes you look like an asshole.

All these "free speech absolutists" still don't realize that free speech does not mean immunity from consequences of that speech from your fellow citizens. It's almost like they just haven't paid attention for their entire lives.

[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 44 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I mean, their position falls apart when you ask them what they think about the college students being oppressed for protesting.

They do not care about free speech. They care about experiencing social consequences when using hate speech.

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[–] fieryhamster@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Of course retards like Rogan and Trump like that word.

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

You see, the problem with that word is that people who want to keep it around really make me wanna use it.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Honestly it was the politically correct word in the 80s, although it was simultaneously used as a slur. A lot of those people are still alive and just hate having to constantly change to new language.

[–] FlyingSpaceCow@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Every time we come up with a technical term to describe people with medical impairments to their intelligence, people begin using it as an insult.

I guess here's hoping "intellectually disabled" doesn't catch on (hopefully too wordy).

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago

I knew a guy who used "delayed" as an insult after HR told him to stop calling people retards. It offended people just as much but wasn't against the rules.

People will find a way.

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[–] weew@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

They can describe themselves again. I suppose that could be considered cultural restoration?

[–] scbasteve7@lemm.ee 14 points 2 days ago

It's okay if he uses that word, he has the pass. The ivermectin really set his IQ below Forest Gump levels.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It never went anywhere, there was just a heavily monied effort to quite literally equate it with the n-word.

In the immortal words of George Carlin "it's bullshit, and it's bad for you."

This entire subject is a distraction. Stay focused on the major problems these clowns are creating, and we can all have a war of words when the fascists have been expelled from the highest eschilons of the US government.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can all newspapers, when writing about Rogan, now use the term "Noted r-word, Joe Rogan..."

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Can we just make Rogan the new R-word and stop saying it?

[–] Apocalypteroid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Shut up, you Rogan

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[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 69 points 2 days ago

Make Hate Great Again?

Some fucking people man... Their entire identity is hatred and gargling Trump's balls...

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 58 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Joe Rogan also claimed Musk did a roman salute and how we are all crazy for thinking it's a nazi salute.

[–] Geetnerd@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I'm not a Rogan fan, and don't agree with him on almost anything.

However, I'm a few years younger than him, and grew up with the word as an insult, the same as him. This was back when the absolute worst insults you could call a dude was the "F" bomb, and a girl the "C" bomb. The "R" bomb was fairly tame. It was a mild insult between friends, like "idiot," "dumbass," or "asshole."

So, I really don't have a problem with it, EXCEPT when it's used to hatefully mock an actual retarded person, THEN it's a different story. A furious different story. I had an older uncle who was severely retarded, and a girlfriend whose sister who was, also.

And yes, I know times change, and yes, "If it was about somebody you cared about..." I get it. It still doesn't bother me unless it's to harm someone actually that way. And yes, I realize he's stated what he stated to get attention. Fuck him.

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[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I’ve had a bad habit of using the word and every time I do I feel like an asshole, attaching Rogans name to it is an excellent deterrent mnemonic device.

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[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Wonder how long he would think this if everyone just started introducing him as "The Retard, Joe Rogan." I'd bet the very millisecond it started to affect him personally, he'd be changing his tune. These fucking ghouls don't want freedom of speech, they want the ability to police OUR speech.

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[–] My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 49 points 2 days ago (6 children)

How about it's just in poor taste to use it and its use probably says more about the user than the target?

And, if you use it, just be prepared for someone to take exception to you using it and you might just trigger yourself an ass beating or some other adverse consequence. Kind of like playing with fire crackers or bullet ants. Maybe, just maybe, you can find a better way to insult someone that's a little more clever and incisive and makes you look like less of an ignorant asshole.

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[–] ajay1@feddit.uk 42 points 2 days ago

Divorced middle aged dad energy

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