No way would I wear fake (homage..typo, sorry). Best way to check is to try at an AD.
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I've been telling peeps this for a while, it's a great method to decide on the correct case size for example. Rolex OP 36 and 40 homages are under 100 USD all day long and you can sell them when your done for a decent amount of what you paid for
Everyone says “try it on at the AD” but you can’t walk out and see how that watch fits into your daily routine. Nor try on different outfits with the watch at an AD. I think dropping $100 on an homage watch to “test drive” it with your daily routine and different outfits is a reasonable cost when some of these watches go for $5,000+
I do. I have skinny wrists and got the Octopus Kraken NTTD knockoff to check how a Seamaster would wear. I ended up getting a seamaster down the line, and what’s cool is that the Octopus is a very nice looking and solid watch in its own right, especially on an unclestraps bracelet!
I feel like this would be a viable strategy if you're mostly considering external appearance factors and congruence with one's regular outfits. The authentic watches that homages imitate might appear similar, but they feel markedly different (in terms of heft and the differences between their internal workings/movements) from their homages.
Not true on the Cronos GMT vs Rolex GMTMaster2 really. (But, you do get from from China @ $275 than at $125.)
No. Not at all
I was actually just thinking about this for movements. I am not sure if the mechaquartz movements are right for me but there are chinese ones for like $50
I did buy a cheap Chinese “homage” for that reason. Once.
6-ish years back, I bought a “sterile dial” Pepsi GMT, same size as a Rolex GMT. A bit thicker.
Paid $70. Wore it for 6 months, crown tube stripped. Junk. But it answered my question.
I decided it was worth putting my name on the list at the AD.
And after 2-3 years, got tired of the Rolex waiting game, bought a Tudor GMT.
I’ve not had a good reason to do it since then. And I gave that watch to a young guy studying watch repair. Told him to tear it apart, not worth much, but something good to learn with.
Same. Love the Tudor so much better now!
No.... just like I would never buy a car without test driving, I would never buy high-dollar watches without trying them on first (unless it was stupid easy to resell or return without taking a loss)
Buying a different thing to see if I like a thing is backwards af and a waste of money.
I’d think a more apt comparison using cars would be paying someone to photoshop your current car in a different paint job/vinyl wrap, or new rims. Its expensive to paint/wrap a car or buy new rims but a good photoshop job is relatively less expensive than getting it done for real and would give you a good feel of how the light would interact with the new color.
I’d think this is a more apt comparison because in a test drive you’re able to go through all the motions you’d normally do in a car. At an AD trying on the real thing, yes you get the feel, weight, overall “heft” of the piece which is important, but you’re restricted to how it looks with the outfit you have on at the AD. You’re unable to test out how it feels when you need to wash your hands, bring in the groceries, or do any normal daily activities with the watch on.
Tudor GMT pepsi homage for Gmt master 2....quite expensive homage😁
No... I just go to the AD and try on the expensive ones.
Have you ever had them take links out to resize it for you to truly experience what it feels like cause I don’t find trying on a watch with 3 or 4+ extra links on there gives me a very good impression of how the watch feels on your wrist.
I certainly have done this, but just to decide if I really like a particular watch on my wrist long term. I did not buy a 41mm Tudor Ranger or a 44mm Panerai because the homages left me flat over time. I did, however, buy a 39mm Rolex Explorer after my experience wearing a Tisell homage.
I call this "try before you buy." It's better to make a purchasing mistake with a $100 homage than the $5,000 real thing!
I don't do this simply because it would partially take away from the joy of having the real thing. For me, part of that joy is seeing it on my wrist for the first time, the unboxing experience etc. If I have a crappier version of that experience before the "real thing" then I'm purposely taking away from my own enjoyment.
Plus, most watches (even highly sought after ones) can be tried on before buying. These aren't cars, you're not going to find anything surprising about it 3 days into ownership that you couldn't 20 mins at the store.
Loads of things you'd find out in 3 days you'd not know in 20 mins at the store.
For example, if that category of watch even suits your lifestyle. Sure, if you buy a Submariner from an AD, you can get out of that even used, but not if you got a Daydate or most non-Rolex watches.
Very very common trend of people buying Daydates as its the cheapest Rolex and available at ADs without a wait, without it suiting their lifestyle.
What about all the extra links on the watch? Or have you had ADs pop them off for you? Cause I personally don’t get a good feel for a watch when it’s fitted to Andre the Giant.
Nope, it’s more like buy the homage because you cannot afford the real deal i.e get the Maen Manhattan for $800 because you can’t swing $75k for a vintage Vacheron 2215 (and probably will never find one) so in a way the homage is OK.
Lamest excuse to justify a Pagani. Fuck.
But some of y’all wear Tudor right? Isn’t that just a homage to Rolex. And you guys pay big money for that?
Not a watch guy… yet. Learning about them
I was on the “just buy a Rolex” train if you’re considering Tudor but after reading more into it, Rolex has brand recognition which is usually a good thing but it can also be a bad thing:
Some comments I’ve seen here are “try asking for a raise in a Rolex” or “If I see someone wearing a Rolex, idk if they’re really into watches or just wants to tick the “bought a Rolex” off the life goals list.”
Wearing a Tudor, sure, youre probably gonna get the “it’s not a Rolex” write off from the lay person but to watch folks, theyll likely know that you know exactly what you’re wearing. Almost like a secret handshake
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Yeah I do this to see if I like the style of a watch too. For example, I bought a Milgauss homage and realized I didn't really how it looked on my wrist. I have 8 or so homage watches (along with a large gen collection), some of them are actually better (ex. the BB Pro homage has a thinner case than the real one).
If you want an even nerdier/engaging way you could build your own homage. I basically have built an explorer 1 homage to see if I like wearing and ever want an expensive watch.
Yes. I owned an Invicta Pro Diver for a while as a test drive for a Rolex Submariner. Ended up disappointed with the Submariner, but I kept the Invicta, ha.
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I used a sharpie and put sundial on wrist. It’s the worst. Only works at night
Seems like a waste of time to be honest and a few hundred bucks. You just have to make a decision. It’s like saying do I want omakase or a nice ribeye tonight and then deciding to taste a bit of canned tuna and frozen White Castle burger to decide what you want.
Do you drive around in a Honda Accord to see how it feels before buying the Mercedes?
No, but you might spend some time driving both a manual and an automatic before deciding which to buy new.
I was thinking about a 1665 Rolex Exp2 "Steve McQueen". Lotta loot even back then, so I got a Tiger Concept homage. Decided it wasn't quite me, so now it's my gardening watch!
There are levels of homage. Some homages are great because they do something slightly different from the original and are just solid watches to start with, for example a green San Martin BB58. Others give you an idea of the watch but just don't have the quality to match, like most Pagani Designs.
Rather put the money towards the real one
Dont, bolster the counterfeit market.
“Homage” lol. Just go to your AD and try on the pieces. Even if the exact model you want is not in stock, you should be able to try on other similar ones.
It's not as simple as homage=fake. Replicas with the genuine branding are 100% fake and illegal to buy/sell. If they have their own brand name clearly labeled, it's legal. It's not trying to deceive anyone on close inspection.
Are Smiths and Steinhart fake watches too? Or do they get a pass because they have "heritage" and use Swiss parts and are assembled in UK and Germany?
It's a gray line but it's an important distinction.
Yes. And the other thing i was told to do which sounds bonkers but works is to look at it in a full length mirror too. Many watches are nice and many watches feel good but it can help you to judge how they look on you. Not from a vanity perspective (well, no more than in anything else), but more that you notice different things when your arm is by your side, when you're wearing a long sleeve vs a jumper or whatever. So that also is why i buy a "homage" via China first.
Damn, thats an interesting way of thinking of Pagani. I always considered em as a concentrated piece of sod.
The only good alternative to your idea was printing the watch on 3d printer to see how it looks on a wrist.
Or you could try both on …. Crazy idea
to be fair i bought a GMT from pagani to get a feel for a Pepsi, the bracelet and looks as you can't just go somewhere and try a GMT Master-II and have it on your wrist for a week. So yes i did that.
no i care about the environment
Never done that but that may be because I've never wanted any of the "famous" watches. Currently I'm in the process of getting all the pieces for a SKX007 "homage", but just because I saw one I liked and decided to build my own (with the proper quality pieces) instead of purchasing the fully assembled homage Chinese one (with lesser quality pieces, like C1 instead of C3 lume everywhere), and instead of getting the Citizen Orca (or Seiko PADI Monster) I was gravitating towards. But I think it's actually a good idea for those in the hunt of a famous watch who can't decide.
You buy two watches to help you decide on buying another watch? Thought this was the other sub for a sec
I've actually never done this, and don't believe I ever will. If you've done any degree of shopping research, you should be able to sell the expensive watch for what you paid for it fairly easily if you end up not liking it down the line. I also just don't like the idea of wearing the homage watch. They're just not for me.
Sugess is money!
Yes, I bought a Vacheron Overseas to try out before I splurged for a Tissot PRX… wait
I bought a 36mm Invicta to decide if I was ok with a watch that small when thinking about a Tudor.
i bought a $90 matthey Tissot to see if i wanted the grape Oyster perpetual. I do, now i need $7500...
100%. Exactly this. I learned that I do not like Tudor snowflake hands, over a few weeks w. a Pagani Chrono. Can’t be done in a store! Saved me serious $$$ & annoyance. Also helped pull the trigger on GMTMaster after rolling a Cronos.
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