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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 239 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Trump is a felon, so I am not sure "lawful" is the best fit.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 90 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The lawful/chaotic axis represents a person's willingness to follow an external set of rules against their own instincts or opinions. Having a pocket judge or a pocket president to legitimize one's actions does not make that person lawful.

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 56 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Trump isn't a felon... He's a multi-felon.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 46 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Also ~~a convicted rapist~~ found responsible in a civil rape trial.

Pedants.

[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago (2 children)

People who multi class are the worst.

[–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

true. that's why i play pathfinder

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[–] EpeeGnome@feddit.online 8 points 2 months ago

Because calling him a proven-in-court-but-technically-not-convicted-because-it-was-a-civil-trial rapist takes too long.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

In the interest of accuracy, none of Trump's 34 convictions were for rape.

He was found to be a rapist as a statement of fact in a civil lawsuit, but that's not a conviction.

So while he is a convicted felon 34 times over, and a rapist, he's not a convicted rapist.

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[–] lauha@lemmy.one 25 points 2 months ago

Musk is definitely not lawful either. Must is pure chaotic evil

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago

He's definitely chaotic evil.

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[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 86 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A couple of them might be chaotic.

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[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 80 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 47 points 2 months ago

Yeah, there is a convicted felon and an illegal immigrant right there.

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[–] Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 77 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Fun fact none of them are lawful

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 37 points 2 months ago

They paid congress a lot of money to say that they actually are lawfull

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

In the d&d alignment chart they are because capitalists have no inherent power outside of the laws that enforce their property. Devils in D&D will always break the rules(and rebel) if they think they can get away with it.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Huh? Devils are the corporate "trap you in fineprint and kill you with subclauses" type of evil. They are the ones who sell you the monkey's paw and come to collect your soul no matter how it shakes out. Catching them in airtight clauses (or narrow loopholes) is famously how you screw over devils.

[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 49 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hahahahaha Hahaha haha "Lawful"

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[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 47 points 2 months ago (2 children)
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[–] Redex68@lemmy.world 46 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Trump is more Chaotic Evil

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Facts. D&D defines the chaotic/lawful divide as whether or not the character abides by a code, ethos, or set of rules. So not "Law" in the "Legal Eagle Law Team" kind of way. Chaotic Evil characters don't really play by any rules, are unpredictable, and are just plain the worst.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)
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[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 months ago

It's why he's not a billionaire. Zing!

[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 45 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'd put Trump and Musk into 'chaotic'

Definitely evil though.

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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 37 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] Laser@feddit.org 32 points 2 months ago

As in can dictate law

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 16 points 2 months ago

As in “full of law”

Like, just jam-packed stuffed to the gills with law, to the point where they vomit law out into the world and we all boil to death slowly in their law-infused stomach acid

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 2 months ago (5 children)

This only counts because they use their money to make their lives "lawful" through legislation and capture of the courts, minimizing their very real crimes against humanity.

Okay perhaps Buffett, Gates, and Cook haven't gone as far as actual crimes against humanity but the rest have, and Buffett, Gates, and Cook are still unlawful but used their money to twist the laws in their favor.

[–] sturlabragason@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

By definition you can not get this rich without stealing the value of peoples labour - at scale.

Aka evil as shit.

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[–] Owlboi@lemm.ee 31 points 2 months ago (3 children)

unless by lawful you mean they manipulate the law however they please with their money and connections, then no.

[–] SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 months ago

um, yeah. that's literally the difference.

lawful evil is "evil in a suit and tie" while chaotic evil is "monstrous, uncivilized evil."

[–] Asswardbackaddict@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

You miss the point of the law

[–] HereIAm@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

That's the entire schtick of lawful evil. Manipulation, extortion, background deals, and all that.

[–] laserm@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago

Nah, don't forget that DJT is a convicted felon.

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

i feel like it should be more chaotic evil

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Ah but they're the ones that make the laws.

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[–] Nounka@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Some off them i see more as unfawfull ( when noboddy is looking ) evil

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Bill does some genuinely good stuff. I'm sure he does some bad stuff too though.

[–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 37 points 2 months ago

there's a book about that, "no such thing as a free gift: the gates foundation and the price of philanthropy"

[–] heavy@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's actually pretty interesting some of the effects his philanthropic efforts have had.

I think the bottom line is that billionaires shouldn't exist, all said and done.

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

billionaires shouldn't exist, all said and done.

Absolutely agreed.

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[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Now he's got his he is. In the 80-00 he was as nasty a fucker as all the rest are now.

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[–] GhostPain@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (10 children)

I see you wisely chose to leave Taylor Swift off of your chart.

No one wants the Swifties on their asses. :D

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[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago

Thiel is so evil he doesn't even fit this chart.

[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago (6 children)
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[–] vane@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Funny to live in times when Villains are in power. Probably in 2060s they will compare them with Hitler.

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