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[–] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

It feels to me that at some point, we will just need to do away with all categories. At what point does it stop being useful to keep putting labels on points on a possibly infinite spectrum?

Would it be better to just push for acceptance in all forms? Forget the labels and just be yourself and accept others for who they are? (Barring, of course, people who are evil or criminal, etc)

My personal experience has been one of:i am unsure of my sexuality and unsure of my gender. Eventually, i decided that I wouldn't focus on what gender or sexuality i am since i dont fit into the main categories. i will just be my own category and enjoy my life the way i want to live it.

I know who i am, and i know what i am. I dont need a label to feel secure about that.

Man was enough, and straight was enough to make things easier for me and others. even though i am not quite man and not quite straight. I fit nicely into neither category, but both are close enough that i am content to just say that rather than have to explain myself to everyone i meet.

Anyone who knows me or gets to know me will know who and what i am eventually.

[–] morphballganon@mtgzone.com 4 points 1 day ago

People use labels to get information quickly as a form of vetting.

"You're not... a republican, are you?"

"Oh, hell no!"

"Oh good!"

Now they can let their guard down and be friends. Without labels, determining they are talking to a decent person takes much longer.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago

You make some good points, and even though the labels man and straight work for me, I have likewise been focusing more and more on the whole "know thyself and live life the way that really works for you" thing and loving it.

But back to my quip: You make some good points. I can foresee how much my dumb angry conservative relatives would hate it! No labels? No categories? Next you're going to tell me that humans don't naturally need strict hierarchy in their society to survive!

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 49 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

To be honest, I think we should just switch to using "queer" at this point. The Q covers everything. In fact we could just use the letter Q and be like on star trek.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

It still makes me uncomfortable as an old fart Gen Xer from back when it was almost exclusively used as a slur, but I recognize it's been reclaimed. It's just a hard association to break.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I just use LGBT+ since it was LGBT for a long time (it was GLBT but the Ls earned their place at the front during the AIDS crisis) then it became LGBTQ, then a bunch of other letters were added while the community was recognizing is profound variety before it turned into LGBTQ+

Q+ has a nice ring to it, but since I'm an unusual form of NB, I fit squarely into the catch-all variety of Q.

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[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Five letters is fine, but I'm not subscribed to the new's letter for knowing what all the add-ons to it mean. It never changes anything for me to know anyway. Just treat people with dignity. "Queer" should be fine at this point for casual use.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

In my daily dealings with fellow queers™, I find most people say "LGBT" in casual speech instead of other variations of the acronym, occasionally adding the "Q", but I've never heard somebody casually drop a "LGBTQIA+." I think we all know that LGBT is inclusive; that, or there's a silent ellipsis at the end.

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 days ago

I think part of it is that a lot of straight people who are allies but not as familiar with the queer community feel strange about using the word queer, thinking that it's a reclaimed slur that they wouldn't be allowed to say if they aren't themselves queer. They don't realize that the queer community has collectively decided that no "pass" is needed for the word queer.

[–] CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

yeah, I mean, we do that officially but not in conversation.

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[–] LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz 47 points 3 days ago (6 children)

I met someone in a dream last night named Fobertleigh. There is no point to this, The post just reminded me of it.

[–] rabber@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I dont think names ever come up in my dreams now that I think of it

[–] hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I think in my dreams I already know who they are whether it's someone I know IRL or it's someone completely imaginary.

[–] 5too@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I rarely have sound in my dreams. I hear fine (when awake), just... don't bother rendering that part when I'm asleep!

I talk with people in dreams, sure; but there's no dialogue - I just kind of know what's been said.

[–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This sounds like the NPC I make up on the spot when the players ask the guard their name

[–] TheOakTree@lemm.ee 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Pick a name and use it for every guard, except switch the first consonant every time.

They will get a kick out of it a few times, and then slowly learn that there's no point in asking the guard's name.

Lambert, Hambert, Tambert, Kambert, and Dambert all come from a long lineage of esteemed city guards :)

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Samwell, Blanewell, Roywell, Hatwell, Wealwell, Johnwell"

https://youtu.be/Odo3F1WqO4A

[–] TheOakTree@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Exactly! So hot, so solid... and a little bit sick of course :)

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago

Maxwell immediately adopting an unexplained and unflappable admiration for Wealwell is such a Murph thing to do and I love it.

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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 46 points 3 days ago (1 children)

!tragedeigh@lemmy.blahaj.zone

not very active yet unfortunately but it was more of a hit than one would think on reddit

[–] BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I think Sigurd Felix Wolfgang Atreides has some very rich parents.

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Really digging deep into the tickle trunk to find something to hate straight people for...

[–] morphballganon@mtgzone.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

One can point out hypocrisy in another without hating them

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Just not this one.

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It doesn't take much digging.

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

To find an excuse to hate people? Must be pretty deep already to have abandoned reason.

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Straight people. You conveniently dropped that descriptor 🤡

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

You feel its okay to hate straight people?

[–] banzhaff@feddit.uk 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 days ago
[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (10 children)

"The terms pansexual, omnisexual, fluid and queer-identified are regarded as falling under the umbrella term bisexual (and therefore are considered a part of the bisexual community). Some use LGBT+ to mean "LGBT and related communities".[29] Other variants may have a "U" for "unsure"; a "C" for "curious"; another "T" for "transvestite"; a "TS", "2S", or "2" for "two-spirit" persons; or an "SA" for "straight allies".[48][49][50][51][52] The inclusion of straight allies in the LGBT initialism has proven controversial, as many straight allies have been accused of using LGBT advocacy to gain popularity and status in recent years,[53] and various LGBT activists have criticised the heteronormative worldview of certain straight allies.[54] Some may also add a "P" for "polyamorous" or "pangender", an "H" for "HIV-affected", or an "O" for "other".[14][55] The initialism LGBTIH has seen use in India to encompass the hijra third gender identity and the related subculture.[56][57]"

Only Anglo-Saxons can make not being straight an overly structured and semantically confusing endeavour, lol. 🤷

[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (3 children)

as a member of the letter gang, can we just call ourselves the letter gang and be done with it?

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[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 1 points 2 days ago

Only Anglo-Saxons? Are you sure?

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 14 points 3 days ago (7 children)

There are straight trans people in the LGBT community. It's not as simple as "not straight".

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 days ago

Only Anglo-Saxons can make not being straight an overly structured and semantically confusing endeavour, lol. 🤷

Except the thing about India at the end of your quote...

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (7 children)

I usually only hear LGBTQIA+ which has the I for intersex and the A Aro/Ace spectrum. The Q is just queer which is a an umbrella term for everything. I don't really see the issue with others though, I also wouldn't know how to make it less complicated in any language. Describing oneself as straight is just comparatively easy as it one thing rather than every other sexuality + also gender stuff. Being homosexual is also just one word and no more difficult.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I think the point is that the classification into discrete categories is kind of contrary to the point of queerness.

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[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

If "queer" is an umbrella term then why wouldn't the whole community just be referred to as such?

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[–] felsiq@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

As a way to simplify, I’ve always like GSM: Gender and Sexual Minorities. Seems to encompass everything without prioritizing any of the letters, and doesn’t require choosing an arbitrary stop point for which letters to list or not list.

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