This could have been prevented if there was a good toddler with a gun.
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The toddlers need gun training. If every toddler had a gun, stuff like this wouldn't happen.
The solution is obviously to try toddlers as adults.
"Aim at the head, shoulders, not the toes, not the toes."
Now remember kids, for a jam you put the magazine in, you take the magazine out... in out, in out, shake it all about.
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Or if we just had mental health programs for toddlers, we wouldn't have any issues with giving toddlers guns!
Another responsible gun owner!
Sad thing is is that there are probably many responsible gun owners, but its the jackasses that get publicized and drawn into the public eye.
Though, that's how it should be. It just takes one reckless owner to ruin several people's lives. That's an incredibly low margin of error, and people should talk about it.
There are, mostly in fact. For some rough math, there are 333,287,557 people in the US, about 50% of which own guns for a rough 166,643,778.5 gun owners. There are 60,000 yearly gun deaths including suicides, accidents, and intentional firearm homicides, for a total of 0.036004944523026% of gun owners likely to be irresponsible leading to death in any given year.
Couple notes, this doesn't include illegally owned guns/gun owners in the number (166,643,778.5) of gun owners, because we can't have that number by the nature of it. Most gun crime excluding suicide comes from them though, and so the 60,000 does include them. This also doesn't include people only injured or non injurious irresponsibility or negligent discharge, as often this goes unreported and so far as I can find isn't tracked well likely due to difficulty. That surely does happen as well, like the idiots filming themselves pointing it at the camera (and their own stupid hand). But these figures can at least paint a picture that somewhere around .036% of gun owners/yr are in the "irresponsible" camp, +/- .002% for margin of error.
I do agree, it should be talked about, we can learn from others' mistakes and lessen the frequency. We should also talk about it when people use them correctly in self defense, or training, IDPA, etc, because that is a lot more frequent and we can learn from good examples as well.
Thanks for doing the homework - this was my general feeling too
I think there's a big problem with responsible gun owners defending irresponsible gun owners. Like, there's a knee-jerk reaction when someone says guns are dangerous, even though you're supposed to always act as though they are dangerous.
Needs to be changed to negligent discharge.
There are no accidents, just negligence.
Unless there is hardware failure, but that's a different story
Sorry... you think letting a toddler get ahold of your loaded gun isn't child endangerment?
...well regulated...
Since when did USA become so anti freedom?
The toddler is clearly part of a militia, to prevent government oppression.
So he has every right to carry and fire whatever weapon in whichever place and direction he chooses.
that the 2-year-old boy took her Taurus 9mm firearm from her purse
Right, so the safety was off then, because there's no way that a two-year-old could release the safety on their own. The movies make it look like you just flick it with your finger but seriously that thing does not move without a reasonable around a force.
Many modern pistols don’t have safeties. Either way it shouldn’t have been loose in the purse and not in a holster.
Not a super knowledgeable gun guy, but I think a fairly common example is for the "safety" to be part of the trigger. Safety's traditionally weren't meant to prevent someone from shooting the gun, they were there to prevent the gun from going off if you dropped it.
Any gun made in the last 50 years shouldn't go off if dropped. Physical safeties have always been about preventing human error. Trigger blades don't do anything to prevent this. I get a lot of flack in the gun community for this opinion but Glock doing away with physical safeties made the entire gun world more dangerous.
You can put a lot more force on any part of a gun if you're not concerned about proper grip and aiming and just use your whole hand.
Tbh not entirely, it could be possible, however unlikely. Honestly imo the bigger issue is off body carry in general is unsafe. Case in point your 2yo can grab it from the purse (and so can anyone else) but it's harder to grab and easier to retain it from a real, good holster, either CCW or active retention (like cop holsters with the button) for open carry (I also generally advise against OC, but whatever.)
Of course it was in Waverly. That Walmart is always full of insane people who shouldn't have weapons, but you know they do. Used to pass through on my way to my hometown and refused to stop there after a few incidents with good old boys because I'm a gay dude who had very long hair back then.
I understand, but you've described greater than half of all Walmarts.
I've never personally had issues in any other Walmart.
This sounds about right for a Taurus owner.
Imagine being able to narrow it down that much when the rest of us go "That sounds right for an American" 🙄
Not a gun person. Is that the Karen gun or something?
Taurus, and this model in particular, is known as a cheap piece of shit probably purchased and carried by someone lacking intellect and sophistication... You know, the type who would have the thing sloshing around unattended in a purse, with no holster.
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That boar population is outta control, huh?
It's a good thing that Toddler had a gun! Imagine if a gunman had decided to shoot up that Wal Mart! The Toddler could Protect itself!
She gave him the wrong pacifier
Kimderguadians!
almost, dude
How does that shit even happen?
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