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[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 138 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’m stealing this! Respectfully.

[–] waldo_was_here@piefed.social 123 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Charlie has so many videos saying "release the Epstein files" that I'm suprise Lefty's aren't capitalizing on them. Plus so many others where he says things that can be clipped. Like think of the collecting rrrreeeeeeeeeee from these fucks if Lefty's were posting pro gun clips of him under all their fake empathy posts

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I am seeing a huge amount of that on Lemmy and Mastodon.

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Right, so the end result is what?

We're watching the world slip further and further into the opinion that Charlie Kirk was a good man. There's no resistance to anything they say anymore because we're all on Lemmy and mastodon where nobody but us are.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

No matter what Kirk is going to be saintwashed by the right. Don’t forget that they will always build their preferred reality around themselves. I get your frustration but it’s important to remember that nothing you say will ever change a rightists mind. God itself could appear in the sky and tell off every evil, self-centered, delusional rightist to their face and they would still find a way to ignore it. Speech doesn’t work on rightists. Logic doesn’t work on rightists. Hard evidence doesn’t work on rightists.

This is why all the leftists on Lemmy are calling for impactful forms of protest. Until we get in the streets and shut everything down and impact their lives and livelihoods and stock prices nobody is going to negotiate. Power is all they recognize, and they are going to do everything they can to make sure we don’t have any.

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Leftists might try to capitalize on Epstein.

But liberals aren't leftists. The liberal establishment won't promote the Epstein story because liberals are also deeply implicated.

Similarly liberals collaborate with fascists. They're not going to be trolling them. They're going to be memorializing kirk and calling for "civility" or whatever the fuck. NPR did like a full day of Kirk memorialization.

So yes, libs are less than worthless. But that has nothing to do with leftism.

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 62 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I hate when they delete stuff, like... do you want conspiracy theories to spread? Because that's how conspiracy theories spread.

[–] zrst@lemmy.cif.su 45 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's all about controlling how people see the world.

If we're only exposed to "disney, safe for china" media, then that's all people will think the world consists of.

They (people richer than us) don't want us seeing the reality of guns, only their carefully curated fantasies.

[–] Glitchvid@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I agree with this viscerally.

A lot of people are expressing sympathy for the people in the Kirk crowd, but honestly I think it might be a good thing for them — to see first hand what Kirk and the Republican rhetoric is actually advocating for. Maybe it'll snap them out of the fantasies they have of culling "undesirables".

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If they are mentally capable of making the connection between the things he advocated for, and those things happening directly to him.

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

My guess: they'll use this as their latest example of the "violent left" without evidence, as is tradition

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah this is widely applied. From ag-gag laws that hide the brutality of animal torture/murder to the killing of journalists in palestine. ETC.

People in the imperial core are constantly shielded from the reality of their "culture".

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

the problem is that due to the algorithmic nature of social media it ends up getting pushed to people who don't want to see it.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago

Release the Trump/Epstein files

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 38 points 1 month ago

Because censorship of topical newsworthy events is antithetical to freedom. Sure first the censorship will start with "gruesome" but it won't stop there, let people opt out, but it shouldn't be scrubbed from existence.

[–] livejamie@lemmy.zip 33 points 1 month ago

In this case, he said the video of Kirk’s death is newsworthy given the fact that he is a public figure who was killed at a public event.

Saved you a click.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's still up, in some places.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I found it on wikipedia of all places

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why not? It seems like an appropriate place.

[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They had a whole edit war about whether it should be included and locked the article.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Looks like they've decided against inclusion. It's also unlikely the video meets "fair use" standards so they'd have to delete it anyway...

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[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Soon only the dark web will have it.
I mean, I don't like seeing that shit,
but I also don't like living in make-belief land
where the horrors of life are kept hidden
by our "well-meaning" overlords

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Incite further right wing rage?

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago

"Fighting hortler will only make him more angry..."

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Links? I missed the whole thing

[–] CrazyHorse@lemmy.cafe 28 points 1 month ago (5 children)
[–] Steve@startrek.website 8 points 1 month ago

Directed by Quentin Tarantino

[–] dditty@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Yeah, no desire to see it myself. I was on the fence about reporting a still shot I saw on IG. Don't suppress but don't advertise.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I hadn't watched it till now.. yuck!

but probably something anyone that wants to talk about this should see

but it got me thinking, I think the shooter was aiming for his mouth and the drift made the shot hit a little lower

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

He seems an adept shooter. I'd bet he was aiming for center mass like a good little sniper. But one can hardly ask the local range if he can practice from their sloping roof out to 250 yards.

[–] peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

It's even funnier now we know the shooter was a right wing gun nut.

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[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It’s very gruesome. I was not prepared.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Which is odd you know? I thought "meh I've seen some sick shit" but nope. One minute he's a racist accelerationist bigot and the next moment he still is but his brain is clearly whack and blood is rushing down his neck.

Movies and videogames don't come remotely close to representing it accurately

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I’ve even see other videos of people getting killed before, and they were not this bad. Not often; I’m not someone who generally seeks that stuff out. Maybe it’s because of the bright lighting, high clarity, and comparatively high resolution of this one, combined with a gunshot wound that had very gory and visible results.

[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I think what gets people about this one is the large amount of blood that comes from severing a major artery like that and it funneling out through such a focused point followed by how quickly he reacts, goes into shock, then goes limp.

Most gore people get to see, even the real stuff, is much more initially destructive. So the blood goes everywhere all at once and there is very little time or ability to see the immediate reaction of the injured person.

For me, most of the worst stuff I've seen that is not tv/movie make believe that was the most unsettling had very little gore in the traditional sense. It was the reaction of the person that got injured that made it unsettling and the slow realization they make of what happened and is currently happening. There is a much more calm yet panicked tone to it than someone getting ran over by a tank or their head cut off by a terrorist.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

For me it's mostly how the body reacts to the bullet, the hands going up a little Ina reflex, but you can see he's already lost control of his body. That part is always what gets me

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

Yeah that was unexpected and really fucked me up mentally.

[–] source_of_truth@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Meh. I guess I've watched too many Russians getting merked in Ukraine.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

Meh. Not that bad. Glad to see dude go.

Zios are murdering kds and their whole families every day. That's something that's actually gruesome.

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[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

It's news and the adults in the room have not just a right but a responsibility to remain informed.

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