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In a video statement, Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu called the growing MAGA conspiracy a ‘monstrous big lie.’

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[–] jenings@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Well I’m convinced

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 262 points 1 week ago (4 children)

What an odd thing to formally state.

[–] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 136 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I feel like I would suspect them less if they hadn't said anything. Most of Israel's formal statements regarding allegations of Israeli violence are lies, so what would make this statement different?

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago

Even more importantly… maga is never gonna let that bone go.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 23 points 1 week ago

This has "OJ Simpson book" energy

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[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Eh, there was "evidence" (a third-party tweet) that Kirk was worried about being killed by Israel shortly before his death.

It's not like this came out of nowhere.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago (2 children)

He was a raging antisemite. Of course a raging antiemetic whack job would be concerned about them killing him.

[–] primrosepathspeedrun@anarchist.nexus 25 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Wait, antisemite definition one 'hates Jews' or antisemite definition two 'thinks Palestinians are people'? Definition one has nothing to fear.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (5 children)

The original, actual, sense.

He’s a white supremacist. He hated anyone who isn’t white. He’s said some pretty horrific things about Jews, even if he’s nominally okay with an Israeli state (because fascists of a feather…)

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 106 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I didn't suspect they had any involvement before, but now I have some doubts... 🤔

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago

Charles himself said about 6 months ago that he was worried Israel would try to harm him because about a year ago he stopped supporting them over the genocide, so this isn't out of absolutely nowhere. My guess is that it was just a dogwhistle.

The fact that Israel is actually saying it, however? Like... Aight. If they said nothing I would have continued to disregard it, but Israel's statements are around the same credibility level as Russia's, so I kind of have to give credence to the possibility that the exact opposite of what they say is true...

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 77 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I think this means we're at the stage where he's decided it makes more sense to list off all the crimes he's not doing.

List complete.

[–] primrosepathspeedrun@anarchist.nexus 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Shoplifting. Feeding the homeless. Sleeping in his car.

The ones cool people do.

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[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 73 points 1 week ago (12 children)

I had zero reasons to suspect Israel in this, but now there is one

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[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 62 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Makes sense, they're reaching the point where it's more efficient to list the people they haven't killed.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 week ago

For the record, I can believe that Israel has managed to bomb everything in Gaza except Hamas.

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 59 points 1 week ago (6 children)

That's true they don't kill nazis; Israeli snipers only shoot babies in the skulls and eyes:

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/S_p63wypjSc

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/z_CDsj6C7hM

[–] Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 week ago

It’s crazy how that’s the least evil way the IDF murders children, they also target their genitals

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/malnutrition-surge-gaza-snipers-target-heads-legs-genitals/

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[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 48 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Somehow this makes me suspicious when previously I had no thoughts on it lmao

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[–] rustyfemboy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 47 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The "I didn't kill Charlie Kirk" shirt has a lot of people asking questions which are answered by the shirt.

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[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fingers crossed for the Streisand effect.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Confirmed: When I read this headline I thought "uhhh kinda weird; who asked?"

Qanon. Of course Qanon asked.

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Even a broken clock is right twice a day. The murder of Charlie Kirk continues to benefit some of the most powerful individuals and banks with ties to Epstein.

The Senate called for this investigation hours before he was killed

So if anybody was paying attention to that right now instead of the threats of civil war, that would mean that people would be looking at the relationship between Epstein and individuals like Netenyahu, Sultan Ahmed bin Sulayem, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, and Peter Thiel, as well as the banks that helped fund them like JP Morgan, BNY, Bank of America and Deutsche Bank.

Or at least, people would be noticing the Republicans have voted 3 separate times to block this investigation starting on the day Kirk was killed.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 38 points 1 week ago

What an oddly specific denial...

[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Incidentally, why don't we all play with the same truthiness ruleset?

Benjamin Netanyahu ordered the hit on Charlie Kirk.

We know with certainty that Donald Trump did not order the hit, as he'd be bragging about it.

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[–] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago

I guess he draws the line at innocent, hungry children. What a saint

[–] Outlawstar@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago

Israel killed Charlie Kirk.

[–] merdaverse@lemmy.zip 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

He left behind a wife and two kids. That's how we know Israel didn't do it.

Stolen from here

BTW, Netanyahu having to deal with actual antisemites peddling conspiracy theories sounds a lot like the boy who cried wolf

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[–] nozone@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 week ago (3 children)

This is going to make the conspiracy nuts latch on even harder. You just Streisanded yourself, dumbass.

ps: The American right wing hates Jews almost as much as they hate Muslims.

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I'm not right wing, I'm not antisemitic, and I never liked Charlie Kirk.

Still think there's a good chance Netenyahu was involved in his death. I don't believe he acted alone though. Hours before he was killed the house and the Senate tried to investigate connections between Epstein, big banks like JP Morgan, Netenyahu, Elon Musk, and others. Republicans in the House and Senate blocked it and barely anyone noticed bc suddenly Charlie Kirk was assassinated and a bizarre series of incidents allowed the killer to get away.

Trump immediately began calling for war on the left and Elon Musk suddenly went on his white supremacy world tour.

The investigation into the suspect has been botched as fuck, and they claim that they had a note he wrote confessing to the murder but it was destroyed.

The House voted again yesterday and again Republicans blocked a subpoena of big banks involved in this connection. And once again barely anybody noticed bc the Trump admin is still distracting with war on the left avenging Charlie Kirk's murder (which they most likely helped carry out).

Kirk was rumored to have refused to accept money from Israel, but he also had been one of the few right wing propaganda outlets who backtracked after making the statement that he wouldn't talk about Epstein. He made the statement then after backlash from his fans he said he would keep covering it.

There were several powerful individuals that would have been very angry at him and also needed a big distraction right around the time he was assassinated. The question is who actually gave the order for the go ahead? Who orchestrated it and who sent who to carry it out?

P.s.: I love Jews and I love Muslims. I hate corrupt governments and individuals that use entire groups of humans as a scapegoat to distract from their own evil bullshit. We used to call people that did that Nazis.

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I didn't think they had anything to do with it until this.

Netanyahu made a couple of social media posts about it when it happened, but there's now not really another sensible reason why the PM of a random country cares about an American podcaster so much.

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[–] spirinolas@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

Holy shit, they killed Charlie Kirk??!

I never even considered Israel could be responsible. Very nice of Netanyahu to clear that up.

[–] Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

"Because charlie kirk was an adult"

-bibi Netanyahu probably

[–] Fandangalo@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago
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[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

What an odd thing to say...

[–] Global_Liberty@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 week ago

What an odd thing to say.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 week ago

Watching Israel cosy up to the far right is like watching someone free themselves from a bear trap, reset it, and start running straight at it again

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 15 points 1 week ago (4 children)

well coming from such a genuine stand up kind of guy who never does evil things. no sir. yeah I can totally trust this is true.

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

damn, i didn't think they did until they said they didn't. one thing i know is that they can't tell the truth

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Ok, didnt ask.

[–] popekingjoe@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

This sounds exactly what someone who did kill Charlie Kirk would say. /s

Real talk y'all, I didn't even really think to entertain that conspiracy until this.

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