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‘I’m like, “[Expletive] you,”’ Marjorie Taylor Greene said about receiving threats from White House officials

Marjorie Taylor Greene has come out swinging at the White House over the Trump administration’s handling of the Jeffrey Epstein sex trafficking case.

The rift between the MAGA firebrand and White House deepened after a Trump official apparently told her that her support of bipartisan legislation ordering the release of the so-called Epstein files would be viewed as a “very hostile act.”

Greene is one of four Republicans, alongside Reps. Thomas Massie, Nancy Mace and Lauren Boebert to have signed on to a discharge petition to force the release of files related to Epstein. If a discharge petition receives the signature of a majority of members, they can force a vote without the consent of leadership.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 1 points 8 minutes ago

This is a really good thing because we need a maga split from within to get out of this mess

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 2 points 27 minutes ago

I still think she's insane, but I wish we had more progressive, D congresspersons that had this attitude of serving The People instead of the DNC.

[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 2 points 44 minutes ago (2 children)

Either she had an epiphany and saw what she is doing will end her up in prison and probably hell if it exists in her world.

Maybe she is starting to understand she is going to be held accountable in a few years and doesnt want to end up in the concentration camps they send immigrants to.

[–] sharkaccident@lemmy.world 1 points 2 minutes ago

I listened to an interesting take on her on a podcast. Basically they think she is looking beyond Trump and the void if and when he is out of office and she is positioning herself to be the tell it how it is candidate.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 1 points 8 minutes ago

No, she wants power games and shitting on people. She’s just not ok with Trump playing power games and shitting on her. She’s a terrible person, and I’m all for a battle of idiots between her and Trump.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 22 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Though I hate having to support MTG, I think we actually should, just for the moment. Strange bed fellows for sure, but just try to keep it together for a minute. If she can pull enough maga away for maga and the GOP to fall to pieces, I think it's a good day for everyone

[–] Karjalan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Also, she's one of the few in that crowd to stick to her guns and it and not flip to the party narrative.

Even if she's generally a terrible person, is doing it for shitty reasons, or hasn't done it in the past. It's actually a good thing that it's happening at right now and should be encouraged.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 3 hours ago

The enemy of my enemy is my friend, at least for a moment. We even allied with fucking STALIN to fight the Nazis.

So let's encourage Empty G and Boobert, and the rest of crazier-than-normal wing of MAGA in their revolt. Well-timed remarks like "Are you going to let him say that about you?" should help a lot.

[–] tgirlschierke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Remind me who this is again, please?

[–] tgirlschierke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Marjorie Taylor Green or the guy in the picture?

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] tgirlschierke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Thumbnail of the ClickHole article "Heartbreaking: The Worst Person You Know Just Made a Great Point".

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 hours ago
[–] Montreal_Metro@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Idiots fighting idiots. IDIOT FIGHTS!!!

lol.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

Sounds like an idea for an app to me. Something to pass the time on the bus maybe. Bobbleheaded versions of ketamined Elon punching a ripped MTG in a cartoon boxing ring? And they just mash each other with Looney Tunes effects over their heads?

[–] JandroDelSol@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago

the only time someone criticizing Israel or Epstein is actually antisemetic

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 38 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Ugh... I hate myself for supporting Jewish Space lazers trash Nazi here.

[–] Zwrt@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 8 hours ago

We can agree with the contextual sentiment without needing to support the person.

After all you can have a whole spectrum of opinions on something but to specifics al it boils down to is a binary pro/contra

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

The Long Knives are sharpening for the Night...

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 16 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The rats are leaving the sinking ship

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

That’s what this feels like. It’s not like these people were standing around smelling diapers for the love of the game. They want the power he wields and eventually they will come take it.

[–] you_are_dust@lemmy.world 91 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

She can do one good thing in her life if she just completely fractures the Republican party.

[–] mikesizachrist@lemmy.world 13 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Who would join her? She's a island

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Not true:

Greene is one of four Republicans, alongside Reps. Thomas Massie, Nancy Mace and Lauren Boebert to have signed on to a discharge petition to force the release of files related to Epstein.

That's four, and there are undoubtedly others who are too cowardly to speak up, but will switch sides when the numbers start to add up.

[–] mikesizachrist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Right on. Glad to hear it

[–] flightyhobler@lemmy.world 28 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

She's closer to the great pacific garbage patch, but I get your point

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 11 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

dammit i was going to move to the great pacific plastic continent when the sea levels rose and took my land.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Do you mean in a “it’s dissolving and leaving the ocean to populate our bloodstream” way? Or are we actually reducing ocean plastic waste?

[–] clucose@lemmy.ml 10 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It’s getting cleaned up.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 hours ago

Pretty successfully iirc. I read an article that made me not furious about it!

[–] oddlyqueer@lemmy.ml 109 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

I wonder if MTG is the Republican Party experiencing the 4chan effect: if you build your community around pretending to be batshit insane, you'll eventually attract genuinely batshit insane people who aren't in on the joke. It could be that she doesn't realize most of the elected GOP is just pretending to go along with the right-wing outrage du jour to support their cult, and she's genuinely confused about why they're no longer interested in the epstein affair.

That, or she just sees the writing on the wall and is trying to distance herself from it. Either way, fuck her and the shitbags she made a bed with.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 3 hours ago

I've been saying that about the Conservative movement for literally 40 years.

I started listening to Rush Limbaugh when he first came on the air in the late 80s. His listenership was growing rapidly, easily the biggest media story of the time. My Critical Thinking Skills are too well-honed to succumb to his nonsense, but I listened to caller after caller tell him that they'd never heard anyone that could make politics make sense to them before.

I knew he was lying about EVERYTHING, and wondered where America would be if he stayed on the air, with that level of success, for the next few generations. I thought that eventually we will have people growing up around the dinner table with Dad (or Mom) ranting about whatever Rush was lying about that day, and then those kids would grow up and raise THEIR kids the same way.

Eventually we would have a huge segment of the population who have been exposed to the worst bad-faith propaganda possible on an intergenerational basis, especially as the Conservative Propaganda Machine grew and became more experienced and sophisticated.

Rush Limbaugh, and the propagandists of his time knew they were lying, but their followers didn't. They grew up believing the bullshit, and raised their children on the same bullshit. Now we have a large portion of America who actually live in an alternative reality, created by the Conservative Propaganda Machine, even though 2/3 of America, and the entire rest of the world, live in reality.

It's bad enough that these people see America through these treasonous glasses, but now we have people running. For office, and winning, who were raised and politically educated exclusively by the Conservative Propaganda Machine. Gullible, delusional people are actually running America, based their decisions and policies on the bad faith propaganda that Russia has been steadily feeding to the Conservative Propaganda Machine, which then regurgitated to America.

IF we ever get out of this, it will be crucial to somehow reconcile the 1st Amendment and Freedom of Speech with highly-organized bad-faith propaganda, designed to literally destroy our nation.

Do we really have to tolerate such an abuse of our Constitution? If the answer is Yes, then we, as a nation, need to be stronger in resisting those who would would take advantage of our national morality. We have to agree that it isn't a bad thing to harshly slap down those who have treasonous intentions.

[–] bigfondue@lemmy.world 23 points 11 hours ago

Yea in the 90s proper Republicans knew things like Rush Limbaugh were just to get the rubes riled up, but now the rubes are running the show. Even the president sits around watching Fox News for hours a day.

[–] chosensilence@pawb.social 64 points 21 hours ago

MTG the person can go fuck herself. MTG the politician has the opportunity to do something good on behalf of everyone. boy, it'd be great if she stuck to her principles here and refused to compromise. unfortunately, we need resistance from every group opposed to our fascist administration. she ain't welcome to the party but i have to begrudgingly wish her well on this alone.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 9 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Or maybe she is using Epstein as some sort of leverage and has taken it too far by gambling big. Or maybe she thinks she can get the majority of the republican base support behind her if she pushes this hard enough, maybe even eventually dethrone Trump.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Or she’s dumb enough to think this will put her in the running for president after he finally dies.

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Stranger things have happened.

[–] vegeta@lemmy.world 76 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

The Timeline has fractured on a quantum level

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[–] xyzzy@lemmy.today 51 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

TFW you realize you're rooting for the worst people you know

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Nobody is rooting for her it's just great that a terrible person is fighting a much worse person

[–] Ironfist79@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

The worse person you know just make a very valid point.

[–] radio@sh.itjust.works 16 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

They told her all the democrats were pedophiles and she believed it. She still thinks releasing the Epstein files will result in a bloodbath on the left and the arrests of every Democrat congressman ever. She's an idiot.

If you sat her down and explained to her that this will be bad for Republicans because they are the people in the Epstein files she would never be able to connect those dots. She's not out to get trump, she's still after Obama, Clinton, and Biden.

[–] xyzzy@lemmy.today 7 points 9 hours ago

A useful idiot is still useful, despite being an idiot.

[–] moody@lemmings.world 25 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

If she doesn't work for Trump and she doesn't work for her constituents, who does she work for?

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 28 points 19 hours ago (2 children)
[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

The only dinner with candles she gets at home

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[–] Steve@startrek.website 16 points 21 hours ago

Never did I expect to root for this troll

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