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[–] DarthAstrius@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I get the outrage, I really do, but the app broke many privacy rights for users and also the app did technically break ToS by definition being a “doxxing” app.

Regardless, there are websites out there that do it far better than the app, and have universal access Apple and Android devices, which makes sense, because the developer of ICEBlock made it exclusive to Apple, and hispanic communities are overwhelmingly Android users.

[–] frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 20 points 2 days ago

It's only objectionable to fascists who are getting their sensitive little fee fees hurt

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] vandsjov@feddit.dk 1 points 9 hours ago

That is just so sad that it's the way you have to do business. Constant praising and sucking up.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 59 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Google's sideloading restrictions seems almost like its perfectly timed... 👀

Anyways, Google can gargle my:

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 14 points 2 days ago

google also recently removed thier similar anti-ice app.

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[–] Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 686 points 3 days ago (14 children)

And this is why having 3rd party app stores is important. It’s why it matters that Google is killing side loading, if two fucking companies get to decide what you can do on your phone, we’re in a bad spot technology wise

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 425 points 3 days ago (19 children)

We're in a bad spot technology wise

[–] Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 71 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No doubt. I’ve gotten to the point where I have like 6 apps on my phone and it’s in lockdown mode on iOS. And I’d be on grapheneOS if I wasn’t required to use iOS for work.

[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 65 points 3 days ago (16 children)

Can you have your job pay for an iPhone while you have a different personal phone? I’m a big fan of keeping a work device that’s separate from a personal device.

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[–] jonne@infosec.pub 59 points 3 days ago (14 children)

And the open source movement is such a blind spot to the 'left' as well, even though technology freedom is critical if you want to be able to organise any type of resistance in the digital space.

Lemmy users largely get it, obviously, but centre left people will happily let themselves get locked into the Apple/Google walled gardens even though you're just giving that company a ridiculous amount of power over you.

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[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 138 points 3 days ago (14 children)

"Sideloading" is their term, invented to make it sound like something it is not. We should not use this word. The correct word is "installing".

You don't "sideload" on Windows when you install software outside of the Microsoft Store™️. There is no real difference or distinction with software on phones, so there is no need for a special word.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 66 points 3 days ago (1 children)

When I had an iPhone 3GS I got in a hot tub with it in my pocket and it died. I let it dry out. Then I very carefully took it apart and found all the little white stickers inside that turn from white to pink when in contact with water. I used a razor blade to remove those stickers without damaging them. I then placed a drop of bleach on each which turned them back to white and let them dry out. I used very tiny amounts of super glue to re-apply them to the exact same positions within the phone and then very carefully reassembled the phone.

Took the phone into an Apple store. Guy disappeared into the back for about 10 minutes with it. Came back out and said it must have just up and died but he doesn't know how and gave me a new iPhone.

Only Apple product I've ever owned.

Fuck you Apple.

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[–] letsgo2themall@lemmy.world 97 points 3 days ago (4 children)

remember when Tim Apple gifted tRump a golden statue? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

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[–] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 105 points 3 days ago (37 children)

Does anyone remember how the Devs from there didnt want to release for Android because ApPlE iS sOoOo mUcH mOoOrE sEcUrE

Get rekt.

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[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 67 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (14 children)

This is why the web is way better than any app store, yes even with the problems of DNS (DIDs becoming more prevalent cant come fast enough though). Any future phones should have a first class web experience imo.

Edit: I wanna add that browser monopolies are a real threat too. Ladybird is legit on Charlie Kirk's side aka nonpolitical so not a fan of the outlook there. Would love to see KDE fork chromium/blink with valve money and recreate Konquerer and bring back KHTML (I like irony). Valve even has a fork of CEF (Chromium Embedded Framework, electron uses this as well) because of Steam and its ui being a big web app. KDE then has web apps and add them to Discovery, or you can build qt apps. Make it happen valve! And hire me to help lol

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[–] RandomlyGeneratedName@lemmy.world 86 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

This shouldn’t be on the app store. It gives the US government too much access to pull data from it, or order it pulled down. This should be a web app hosted outside the US that can be accessed by any device and can be obscured by VPN access so the regime can’t persecute participants. Apps pull way too much data from phones that ICE can subpoena.

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[–] teolan@lemmy.world 45 points 3 days ago (4 children)
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[–] jontree255@lemmy.world 185 points 3 days ago (6 children)

I’m surprised it stayed up as long as it did. I thought Apple would have taken it down within days.

Anyways I’ve seen this as a non app alternative: https://www.stopice.net/

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[–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 143 points 3 days ago (9 children)

I don't understand why society accepted that the hardware maker gets to decide what software you run.

That'd be like your car deciding which roads you can take, or your blender deciding you're not allowed to use strawberries in your smoothie.

Are you nuts? Why the fuck would your phone decide which apps you can run?

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 68 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

footnote page 6 “it’s our f***ing store” from Epic v. Apple 2025-04-30 https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/Contempt-order.pdf

Maybe our phones are their f’in phones too

[–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 47 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Apple welding their phones to their own store, exclusively, is just like paying workers with scrip instead of dollars. This used to be a common practice for capitalists. The scrip is spendable only in the company store.

We have to stop all such anticompetitive practices.

Just a reminder, to stop the practice of getting paid in scrip the American workers had to take up arms and shoot some people. Look up Battle of Blair Mountain. It's not like the capitalists stopped the practice just because it was unpopular, lol. Nor did the anticompetitive practice of paying wages in scrip stop because people called their senators and wrote angry letters.

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[–] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 40 points 3 days ago

This kind of thing is coming for Android as well once Google has converted it to it's own walled garden bullshit.

[–] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 102 points 3 days ago (2 children)

"Good thing I got revenge though on Google's sideloading ban by buying a phone that never allowed it to begin with"

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 69 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (10 children)

We should make webapps for everything. When done properly they are as fast as native apps, can work on any device and do not require a dev license or account.

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[–] Salvo@aussie.zone 89 points 3 days ago (7 children)

I’m gonna play devils advocate here (and probably be monstrously downvoted);

ICEBlock stored the location data of all its users on Apples iCloud Servers. This the perfect target for ICE; a complete database of locations of every person who doesn’t want ICE to know where they are.

One assumption is that that Apple realised how tempting this data is to the current demonstrative administration and purged it before ICE could get their civil-liberty-abusing mitts on it.

[–] ErmahgherdDavid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 76 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (10 children)

You're giving apple too much credit. Tim Apple literally gifted trump a golden statue. The press are reporting that this is directly in response to a request from the DOJ. This isn't apple having a moral epiphany and thinking they're doing ice targets a favour. Corporations don't do that sort of thing unless it will make them $$$

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[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 112 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What's objectionable about it Apple? Hmm?

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[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 39 points 3 days ago (8 children)

the USA Goverment probably forced them to remove it

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 57 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Who could have seen this coming from the company whose CEO gifted Trump a literal gold plaque in celebration of his reelection?

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[–] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Was this ever even available to non-US accounts? Was there ever an explanation for why it was georestricted?

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[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 66 points 3 days ago (3 children)

It's really sickening that every corporation has thrown in with the new fascist regime.

At least these assholes used to pretend to be "not absolutely awful". Now they're just mask-off oppressors.

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[–] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 58 points 3 days ago (7 children)

The corporate sector will always back a fascist government.

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