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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 21 points 6 hours ago

I like how "american farmers" sounds like helping the little guy. No. Just another corporate bailout, nothing to see here.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 20 points 10 hours ago

Ah, the good old socialist handouts!

[–] StewNasty@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

They say you have to bury a farmer 10 feet down to prevent their arm from popping out of the ground to collect another handout.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Or you could feed them to the wood chipper

[–] Jerb322@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago
[–] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 41 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

A government handout? Lazy no good farmers taking my taxes. Pull yourself up by your bootstraps. Stop buying Starbucks. And most importantly, stop voting for gop pedophiles.

[–] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 15 points 13 hours ago

Fuck those guys. Taking money from the blue states. Get a real job.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

They should just do this monthly, but have regulations to figure out how people can not abuse it, but then you need offices and checks and balances... Maybe even government agencies....Wait a minute....

Like, all jokes aside, as reckless as this all is, at least maybe they DO get there?

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 27 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

While the MAGAt fucks continue to cry about SOCIALISM.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 22 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Don't worry 90% of it will go to Cargill, ADM, Tyson, Smithfield, John Deere, and Bayer/Monsanto.

All the remaining small farms will fight over the scraps and then get bought out by one of the first four, depending on what they farm...or be entirely under the thumb of the other two.

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

That was really the idea all along. Consolidation of wealth and power.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 13 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (3 children)

I'm guessing most farmers will be allowed to stay in their homes and manage their fields while the big ag companies take all their yield and pay out a meager salary.

They'll call it "franchise farming" or something catchy, but it's really gonna be Indentured Servants 2.0.

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

This is how farming has mostly worked in this country since it was founded. A decent amount of small and even large family farm operations don’t even own the land they farm because of how expensive land is in general. Farmland really started to get expensive 20 years ago and ever since then it’s been hard to purchase land at all for any farm that is bigger than 100 acres. My father was able to still purchase land in the 90s and early 2000s before prices really went bananas, so to grow his operation, he had to lease if he wanted to farm more land.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 4 points 5 hours ago

Corporate Sharecropping

[–] _core@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

JD Vance has investments in companies that buy out farms from farmers. He says the farms will continue to be run by experts (ie the farmers he bought the farms from)

[–] _core@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago

AcreTrader is the company

[–] renrenPDX@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 15 hours ago

It's okay guys, Trump has gained 17 TRILLION from tariffs. Biden? 1 Trillion, Trump, 17 trillion in 8 months! Imagine that!

/dripping with orange sarcasm

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 37 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

We paid out 20 billion dollars to Argentina, fucked over a bunch of American soy bean farmers in MAGA country and so he's paying them another 10 billion to not turn on him. Cool.

[–] _core@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 hours ago

Framers are millionaires. Their farmland the equipment needed to run it is hugely expensive. They voted for bailouts and tax breaks the first time, and that's what they voted for this time. When they weren't getting what they voted for they threatened to turn on him until he gave in. They won't learn anything from this except that they get tax breaks and bailouts from Trump.

[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 187 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Fuckin welfare states. Pick yourselves up by the bootstraps you fuckin "without us America is nothing" fuck boys. I'm tired of these red states hurting people and still getting handouts.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 68 points 22 hours ago (11 children)

I always have to laugh when I'd see people online arguing for rural areas/rural states and getting chapped about states being called "flyover states". They'd start with that "but WE supply your food! The people in the cities would starve without us!"

WTAF. Get outta here with that shit. First of all, most of what I eat comes from Mexico and California. Secondly, it's not as if these people are supplying food out of a sense of altruism. They act like they are really doing something truly noble and everyone else should bow and scrape over their racist bullshit because of that?

These people are going to really not know what to say as automation really, really starts taking flight for these kinds of jobs (why we started applying AI to things like white collar jobs first I have no idea). I know for a fact that full, end-to-end automation is a goal of the coal industry and it sure as hell is one for farming, too, as I saw a presentation on it being made several years ago. In any case, it's going to be hard for these morons that happen to live near corporations extracting food from the land act like they should call the shots on how most Americans live their lives.

These assholes have been unable to deal with the reality that most Americans live in cities and have for quite some time....they just have not caught up. But these people think a minority are "real murica".

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

as automation really, really starts taking flight for these kinds of jobs (why we started applying AI to things like white collar jobs first I have no idea)

They are, though? And it has massively changed the dynamics in agriculture. They just don't make headlines because they're technical behind-the-scenes stuff

It's something that annoys me a bit when everyone started talking about AI, but only really a small part of it, and then thinking that's the be-all-end-all of the field. It never was, and still isn't. People just don't know about the rest, and don't read up on it either

Side note: farming is an area where the "Internet of Things" is used extensively as well, but when people think of IoT, they similarly only think about smart homes. Same problem as well

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[–] pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world 33 points 18 hours ago

What about everyone else’s wallets that have been hurt by his decisions?

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago

Sooooo much winning everywhere!

[–] RotatingParts@lemmy.ml 92 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

So US tax payers are paying for the tariffs. Who would have every guessed?

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 70 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Paying twice. You pay the tariffs on imported goods and pay again to bailout the local farmers who can't sell their goods overseas.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 44 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Three times because we are also bailing out the country that is selling the soybeans we would normally sell to China.

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Welfare queens

[–] MdRuckus@lemmy.world 13 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

A solution for a problem he created.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 4 points 11 hours ago

It solves nothing.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.world 17 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

No. Let them fail. Show us the actual results of your asinine "free market" policies for once.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 74 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

For this large of a bailout, my groceries should be free.

[–] MrVilliam@sh.itjust.works 18 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

No, socialism is only for corporations and now farmers too I guess.

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[–] KingPapaDaddy@lemmy.world 24 points 19 hours ago

Last time it cost us $26 billion because of his stupid tariffs. Why can't he just go play golf

[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 48 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Bail them out now, and then what? Their international customers aren't coming back if they already found comparable trade partners elsewhere, and the non-billionaires here are tapped out from high food prices. Won't they just need another bailout sooner than later?

[–] monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 42 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

It’s actually quite simple. Bail them out now, wait for the midterms. Let the farmers go bankrupt next year so mega corporations buy up their foreclosed fam land. Then the mega corporations and billionaires get to privatize the profits and socialize the loses. There’s no better investment than that.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 11 points 18 hours ago

Yep. They get to "own the libs", but the megacorporations will get to own their farms. Cons are not really great at thinking shit through. Being the emotionally flighty people that they are, but ironically, calling everyone to their left a "snowflake", they are easily manipulated....

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 21 points 20 hours ago
[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 41 points 22 hours ago

No, this is yet another bullshit excuse to feed money to the already wealthy megacorps that are in the Ag business. Small farmers won't get a damn thing, just like last time.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 32 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I think I heard some woman politician on an older podcast episode from Thom Hartmann who was talking about sitting down with conservatives in her state and why they voted for Donvict, even though they knew he would start another trade war that would harm them - they figured he would just bail them out again.

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[–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 25 points 22 hours ago

2 terms, 2 bailouts for farmers.

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