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Eyes Up's purpose is to "preserve evidence until it can be used in court." But it has been swept up in Apple's attack on ICE-spotting apps.

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[–] TuffNutzes@lemmy.world 20 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

"Which side did you choose when authoritarianism came to your doorstep?"

Looks like Tim Apple has chosen.

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Beholden to the AAPL ticker.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 17 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Because corporations suck up to fashists if they are in power. That's all.

[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago
[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 24 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Corpos are not your friends. In fact they are usually the enemy.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

they are ~~usually~~ always the enemy

[–] vogo13@sh.itjust.works 42 points 11 hours ago

I'm glad the google play store never censors apps, oh wait. It's almost as if big corporations and now governments have no citizens best interests in mind, mind blowing.

“Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power.” - Benito Mussolini

Dissolution of the Order of the Star

[–] CannedYeet@lemmy.world 28 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

My camera can record videos of ICE abuse. Are they gonna ban that?

[–] extremeboredom@lemmy.world 29 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I can't think of a reason why, with client side scanning, they couldn't in the near future implement a filter similar to this. Pictures and videos deemed "problematic" could magically disappear. And of course, your iPhone will send a helpful report to the local Gestapo branch. Eventually, "Sorry, network permission is required to run the camera app. You may not capture images of law enforcement activities per executive law. The camera will now be disabled until you comply."

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

The thing is - the Internet itself is a fascist technology. Fascists, and especially German Nazis, used electric terms and analogies to refer to their politics. Mostly referring to unification of various parts into one network, except in their case the information medium really used was radio.

But the basic idea was that any kind of fascism thrives as means of mass politics. Anything unique, specific, individual is in conflict with that. But the Internet is the tool to slowly grind through that conflict, because it gradually reinforces one voice, one way and one meaning.

It's a very intelligent trap and one hard to believe in, but our world today is so much more fascist than even in dictatorships 30 years ago, that I think I'm right.

Also consider that the very shock of something so modern and new and comfortable being used as a channel of control is, too, what Nazis did.

And when you want to argue that in the Internet one can post their own opinions and create their own spaces and do their own things, think again. These abilities are inherent to reality as well. Make a thought experiment - could you whisper with your friends at a Nazi meeting in the back rows? Could you not even attend? Could you have private conversations on everything you'd want elsewhere? Yes, these all are true. But the only voices to be heard by everyone and reinforced by that system and order were those from the tribune, and millions of voices would answer them in one and the same way, and millions of hands would raise in salute.

And LLMs and such new tools are going to make this worse, because they are tools of situational speech accord with what you expect, leveled by the common average, just like fascism is an ideology of situational emotional accord with what you feel, leveled by the common average. Fascism is the extreme ideology rejecting logic and semantics, and the Internet on every level has been built to reject logic and semantics as a medium of communication of living people. And LLMs are an even more direct tool to do well only that, all the rest is attempts to sell it, but this is its main trait.

And let's recall again how that stopped - by spending all its resources and being defeated in a war.

A truly visionary and futuristic regime, honestly. It's funny how Nazis were so futuristic despite being blood and soil barbarians, and Stalin's regime was really reactionary despite dreaming of space travel, except Stalin's regime's official philosophy was dialectic materialism which is the only thing convenient to describe this contradiction.

Stalin’s regime was really reactionary

Even this is a charitable description. The best term for Stalin's regime is "despotism".

[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago
[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago

This.... Is a very possible future

[–] MisterD@lemmy.ca 4 points 12 hours ago

That's what AI is for

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 25 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I banned Apple from my life a long time ago.

[–] DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 hours ago

Never owned one of their products, not even once. When I realized the iPod didn't support USB file transfer and they forced you to use iTunes, I knew that they were a bad company and I vowed to never use their products.

[–] bike_and_cargo@feddit.org 6 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Other big companies like Google are not better

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 hour ago

I didn't say they were?

[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Working on it …

[–] danhab99@programming.dev 35 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Why are these apps being distributed on app stores

Why are these apps not PWAs with an app store deployment wrapper???

[–] pumpupthejam@piefed.social 3 points 1 hour ago

The same reason they don't sell people a live chicken in the grocery store. The general public wouldn't know what to do with it.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 22 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Every Lemming be like "what app do you use" meanwhile I'm like "...app? 👀"

-Sent via WebUI

(I don't keep stuff logged-in on my phone, incase a cop grabs it)

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 15 points 15 hours ago

"what app do you use"

"Uhhhhh Firefox?"

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[–] PissingIntoTheWind@lemmy.world 67 points 20 hours ago (8 children)

People need to realize. There is no fair access to technology. You either bend the knee or have to create your own marketplace.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 11 points 14 hours ago (5 children)

Its why I have linux PC / laptops, and GrapheneOS on my phone (may get a fairphone next time)

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Me too, but the lords of Technofeudalism, backed by government, won't allow that forever. Maybe on PCs, but not phones. No "side loading" what they don't approve. Banks and co, only allowing their apps on approved OSs. No satnav traffic data unless you use an approved satnav, rendering them useless.

The problem isn't technological, it's political. We need decent government protecting citizens and enforcing competition laws. The problem is the population don't understand what is being done to them, so don't vote against it.

None of it is new. Liberty vs security, monopoly, etc, aren't new, but wrapping it in technology blinds most people to it.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Agreed on decent government...that is tech savvy. Ay leasy Fairphone is independent and you can swap the default android to Ubuntu touch OS

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[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 163 points 1 day ago (23 children)

Send Apple feedback. They need to hear how unpopular working with Trump will make them.

https://www.apple.com/feedback/

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 129 points 1 day ago (33 children)

OR stop buying ANY of their products

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[–] KelvarCherry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 68 points 22 hours ago (6 children)

So if we ever take back this country, we've gotta destroy Palantir, Apple, Google, Meta, Disney, Microsoft, Amazon, CVS (working to compile a medical database on all USAmericans)... and every company that backed Trump's Nazi campaign. Start making a list now. The corporations alone will be a life's worth of work.

[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Nationalize all of them, democratic the new platform so the government can't control it. We get one environment that's compatible with everything AND can't be weaponized by tyrants

Excuse me? Comcast belongs on that list.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Basically every company over a certain size. They all got that big by unfair conduct or outright abuse, because your market laws are way too lax and regulators look away.

You have created menaces that the rest of the world (and the environment) has to deal with.

[–] trajekolus@piefed.social 10 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Add Tesla, Starlink & Oracle

[–] KelvarCherry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 hours ago

oh, yeah, of course Musk's companies go on there.. and I saw a few things about Oracle's surveillance efforts.

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[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 71 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

why is luigi so popular and adored they ask

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