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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Didn't you people literally found your country because you weren't fans of Kings?

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yes, but clearly he's not a king. Just bc he acts like a 👑, talks like a 👑, threatens to never leave office and plates the fucking white house in gold like a 👑, he's obviously a president.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hate to break it to the Confederate Party, but they and Taco are not equal to "America".

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Nope, but that's some very typical narrative control, and it predates Trump.

If you don't like Trump you hate the U.S.

If you're not with us, you're against us. It leaves no room for any possible alternative or logical argument.

If you don't want militarized city streets, you want crime.

If you don't want to outlaw abortion, you want to murder innocent babies.

No, they just hate the trash. The trash is republicans. Those that actively hate and those that cuck themselves to those that actively hate. The ones that go along with it are worse than those that are doing it.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Who fucking cares what corrupt traitors and pedophiles think?

[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Other traitors and paedos. And by the looks of it there's fucking millions of them.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago

And MILIONS AND MILLIONS more who aren't.

THEY AREN'T NORMAL! Don't let them normalize treason, corruption, racism, and pedophilia. They are fucking WEIRDOS, they do not represent decent American society, and we should remind them of it many times a day.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 104 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ah, so they support Kings.

Got it.

[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 63 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] minnow@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"And my Senate." I meant, "I am the axe."

Shit, I have notes here somewhere.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 points 1 day ago

This spaghetti! Or something, IDK...

[–] wuffah@lemmy.world 68 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Orwellian loss of conceptual meaning is palpable here. The right to protest is now “Terrorism”. I’ve never seen people who “love America” so desperately try to justify murdering their own countrymen.

The rhetoric is being dialed up because the deeply unpopular policies of this administration are weighing down its power grab. Usually fascist movements seize power when they are popular, which is no longer the case. Ironically, I think this bizarre rhetoric will weigh them down further: Trump is mush. Steven Miller is a whiny high school bully. Russell Vought is a Christian nationalist who wants to ban porn. Conspiracy theorists and Fox News hosts all. They are forcing the national guard into as many cities as possible to provoke an excuse invoke the insurrection act because that is the only way they can stay in power as more and more lawmakers, politicians, and influencers become exhausted and unable to operate within the conflicting and constructed reality they dictate.

Paradoxically, I fear that as the administration’s positions become more ridiculous, the potential for violence increases as they run out of options for maintaining their hold on power - like a dying star starved of light elements to fuse, or a circus in which the clowns are all given Tommy guns.

[–] capital_sniff@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

They need to rebrand the march as a totally peaceful tour.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 day ago

I literally hate what America is right now.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 35 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This is Portland 2.0

When did the news casts about Portland burning stop? When Noem showed up to observe herself.

They’re done with Portland and have moved on to the DC “No Kings since 1776” protest.

Consider how much more dangerous this is. It’s on their turf. Random people are showing up and in greater numbers. There may not be “community” discipline like in Portland.

Portland did it their way and got “weird”, and it worked. I think what this will take is not just discipline but taking all of it back. Wearing the symbology of the country. Making “We The People” banners prominent to any film Noem takes. If they knock people down, then they’ll be knocking American flags down to the ground at the same time.

Unfortunately, I don’t believe No Kings since 1776 will wear those flags, even though that will be their armor. Statues of liberty, banners of the constitution, flags, all of it.

Take it back. It’ll be the only armor they have this go, making the peripheral view of themselves appear to be a maga march without red hats. Or do wear red hats that all say “no kings since 1776”. THAT will really confuse the imagery they want for social media. It’ll even confuse them.

Frog suits won’t work, it’ll give a vibe of a gay pride parade, to them, which will make much better film for social media when the ICE guys start slamming people to the ground.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've been saying that for a long time. We have to take back the symbols of our country from the traitors who have desecrated them. We are the only ones honoring our Founding Documents, let's be the ones to honor the other things that represent the PROMISE that the Founding Fathers made.

Unfortunately, we haven't lived up to that promise very well, but that doesn't make the concepts of Freedom and Equality any less valid. IF we manage to recapture our nation from the Traitors, we should endeavor to do better living up to those Founding Principles.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Hear, hear. I wish I could give and the poster above 1000 Internet points. I've been saying the same for as long as I remember. I remember someone expressing shock that I had a flag up - they were rather "centrist".

I honestly don't understand this. Fuck that. This is MY FUCKING COUNTRY too, zeusdamnit.

We on the left have got to reclaim patriotism and its symbols, etc, as OURS. It doesn't belong to these fascist pigs.

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I understand that, and you're right. Some people will see that and not take it seriously bc it seems so unfamiliar to what they associate with patriotism, and that's a big part of the problem. Liberty and Justice for all means exactly that. It's important people be allowed to protest and express themselves however they feel is important to them.

I've had similar conversations with people about defending messages of Christianity, and people like James Talarico speaking out against the weaponization of Christianity by the right.

A lot of times people on the left will say something like why do we need to embrace that message at all? Why cater to the right, isn't it enough to say separation of church and state? The answer is yes, and you don't need to embrace a Christian message anymore than you need to wrap yourself in an American flag to prove you're American.

However, if those are things you hold close to you, it is important you express those messages side by side Americans who look nothing like you.

The reason why is that the Christian nationalist movement relies on a narrative of victimhood and fear. "The so called tolerant left wants to destroy Christianity and traditional America. There is no room for you. They don't want you."

So it's important to show them what equality actually means, and if they can learn to stand peacefully next to others that don't look like them and express the values that do matter to them, then they're welcome too. If not, then they can just keep sticking with a message that claims to love America in name, but apparently has no use for the values it was founded on.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

The reason why is that the Christian nationalist movement relies on a narrative of victimhood and fear. “The so called tolerant left wants to destroy Christianity and traditional America. There is no room for you. They don’t want you.”

I don't feel any special affinity for xtianity, though I was raised in a (leftist) tradition of xtianity, and have more than a few family members still part of various leftist xtian denominations. But the left and the Democratic Party have lots and lots of xtians in both, so what the right says is of course utter and complete nonsense.

What should be made clear is that there is plenty of room for xtians - as long as they realize that they have no special place or privilege over other Americans, and they have no special rights to try to indoctrinate others. If the rest of us don't want to be part of their thing, they need to respect that and leave us the fuck alone. Their laws are for them and for them alone. Their rules don't apply to our secular government. When they start trying to subject other people and their children to their book club by governmental force and injecting their rules into our government, that's where the problems start.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 2 points 1 day ago

I get that, I do, but the win that happened in Portland only happened because they agreed not to step outside certain boxes.

What this looks like on Noem’s film will decide whether or not martial law happens. DC marchers didn’t ask for that responsibility, but these are the times we live in and they have it now.

Portland didn’t ask for it either, and they worked together with a set of guidelines and won.

This next battle won’t be as easy as Portland’s, ether.

Everything you say is true. And will continue to be true at all the No Kings since 1776 marches EXCEPT the one in DC.

DC is Portland 2.0, which means everyone there has to craft an image for social media cameras and not take any bait. Or it could be martial law for everyone. No pressure.

Wear your rainbow. Or your inflatable frog suit. Just wear a bigger American flag. That’s all. Unless someone has a better idea for good film.

Keep the “since 1776” on No Kings, it resonates more.

[–] BossDj@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, Portland is just on hold pending judicial review. But the news cycle needs feeding to keep maga minds stupid, so shift and shift and shift. If the troops are denied, the news will find another gap in the cycle a month from now and say "remember when Trump deployed troops to Portland? Look how peaceful it is!" While skipping the part where it was always peaceful.

No, that self-esteem lacking loser, Noem posted immediately after visiting Portland "it's all on fire!" despite her camera people getting nothing.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

dint she do a faux prayer session with her ICE lards. like it was so obvious they were faking it.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

MAGA is all performative. They don't have the intelligence to craft an actual belief system.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

pretty much, they have no convictions, thats why you always here them "they drove us to voting for trump for accusing us for commiting bigotry,violence,,,etc"

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

More of Murc's Law. I'm so sick of it.

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

We'll see what happens with this protest vs the active guards all around the country. Pretty sure it's a powder keg. Martial Law by Halloween I imagine.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago

No, he can't impose Martial Law too soon, or he gives the courts time to react.

The whole point of Martial Law is to suspend elections, so he'll have to do it just before the 2026 election, making the optimal moment just about a year from now.

In the meantime, he will use every opportunity to stoke as much conflict as he can, so that by next summer, America will be exploding.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

I’ve been thinking this about the last few of these but I’ll be shocked if these go without some sort of catalyzing incident

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago

Any time, very easy mistake to make

[–] Vertelleus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago

Find a protest near you: mobilize.us/nokings

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Maybe they ought to read the Declaration of Independence. That thing we celebrate nationally every year.