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[–] one_step_behind@quokk.au 89 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sure, if we ignore the fact that those engineers had all of their work checked by people we called calculators.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 68 points 2 months ago

That sounds like women's work, of course we're going to ignore it

[–] Godort@lemmy.ca 60 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm just testing that the calculator works. It's part of the scientific process, sweaty

[–] derek@infosec.pub 5 points 2 months ago

An exquisite typo.

[–] jeansburger@piefed.world 40 points 2 months ago (10 children)

Okay look, some of the math I do on a daily basis is like 5 levels above basic addition (it looks like I've written a whole ass sentences of gibberish) but like what if they changed it? I'd rather be sure that 2+2 still equals 4 than be wrong and the thing I'm working on ends up making expensive sounds.

There's also just removing the cognitive load of having to process this information. You're allowed to look up the answer (that's what a calculator and the slide rule do).

Using the tools you have to speed up your work doesn't make you a worse engineer than those in the past. You're building off their work so you don't have to constantly literally reinvent the wheel.

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago

Yup. If I'm not ballparking, all math goes through a calculator. It's already there, and I'm already using it. "Trust, but verify".

[–] arox@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I am guessing you are an engineer of some sort.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Engineer of wide surfaces - also known as a cleaner.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I'm a Cognitive Developmental Transportation Engineer ... aka school bus driver.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago (6 children)

You can't calculate 2+2 with a slide rule

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Maybe you can't

[–] johncritzman@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Moves C index to 2 on the D scale

Moves indicating line to 2 on the C scale

Reads 4 on the D scale

Good thing 2+2 and 2*2 yield the same answer. Would have to bust out the addiator otherwise

[–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yoy can use 2 normal rules to add/rest 2 numbers, but you can't do it in a slide rule with its logarithm scales. But luckily there are solutions out there

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Well, but fails with 3+3, there an US engineer must use still an addiator. Nowadays it's easier with an pocket calculator.

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[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You could probably do log_10(10²×10²) instead?

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] redchert@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 months ago

Technology is invented for the sake of usage. It’s cultural calvinism that postulates that the „harder“ work is the „better“ work.

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[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As long as they don't ask ChatGPT.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] CatsPajamas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] CatsPajamas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

I don't believe you!

Here's what I got from Gemini:

Based on the foundational principles of mathematics, 2 + 1 = 3 because it represents combining a set of two items with a set of one item, resulting in a new set containing a total of three items. Here is a more detailed breakdown: Understanding the Numbers

  • 1 (One): This is the basic unit, representing a single object or item. Imagine one apple. 🍎
  • 2 (Two): This represents a collection of two basic units. Imagine two apples. 🍎🍎
  • 3 (Three): This represents a collection of three basic units. Imagine three apples. 🍎🍎🍎 Understanding the Operation (+)
    • (Addition): This symbol means "to add" or "to combine." It instructs us to take two or more quantities (or sets) and put them together to find their total. Putting It Together The equation 2 + 1 = 3 is a statement that follows these definitions:
  • Start with 2: You begin with a set containing two items.
    • (🍎🍎)
  • Add 1: You then combine that set with another set containing one item.
    • (🍎🍎) + (🍎)
  • Result is 3: When you count all the items in the combined group, you find there are three items in total.
    • (🍎🍎🍎) This concept is one of the most fundamental axioms in arithmetic, often demonstrated using a number line. If you start at the number 2 on the line and move one unit to the right (which is what "+ 1" means), you land directly on the number 3.
[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 months ago

Am engineer, made my own slide rule for fun

Still check basic arithmetic because I'd rather overestimate my own incompetence than underestimate it

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago

And a team of 20 black girls who solved all their math problems

[–] xploit@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Plotwist; It's an AI calculator and the answer is 80085

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

“Is the answer 3?”

Ai taking a drag from a cigarette: “Sure thing kid, why not?”

“Wow, so smart.”

I genuinely do hate AI, this is joke about it constantly validating everything asked of it instead of actually being useful.

[–] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They say we can stand on the shoulders of giants, but first we gotta climb a friggin giant

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

just cut it's achilles tendon and it'll lower itself for you

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[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (11 children)

... And now read idiots who advocate that it is OK to not understand analogue clock:

https://lemmy.world/post/37844741

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I saw that. It's fucking breathtaking, the apologists for stupidity.

If I go start an account on a .ml instance and claim letters and numbers are colonial, patriarchal constructs and should be eliminated, I'll be the most popular poster until I accidentally make everyone illiterate out of spite.

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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wasn’t that disproven by Snopes?

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[–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 2 points 2 months ago

guess the new "go touch grass" is going to be "go read a dial clock"

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[–] saturn57@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

This is incorrect. The Apollo program led to massive development of computer technology because it would not be possible without it. They created the first real time computers and were the world's largest buyer of integrated circuits at the time. Computers were part of every single part of the mission and were critical to it's success. See One Giant Leap : The Impossible Mission That Flew Us to the Moon for further information.

[–] pigup@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Engineer in 1969 : "nwords" Engineer today: "no that's my dad, I just graduated and started working here too. Yea my grandfather too." "I grew up pretty conservative"

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Till, only USA has engineers

[–] pigup@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Yes they drive trains

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago

If you're walking under something I've designed, would you prefer I save time?

[–] Unknown_0671@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 months ago

me when i have no perspective

Engineering mathematics is easy. Follow simple rules, follow simple formula, do basic algebra, don't screw up ur units. The issue is when numbers start to get involved. I've made more mistakes simply doing the number wrong than anything else. This is why using code to solve all ur problems is goated

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