Texas: where the Party of "small government" forces you to appeal your personal health decisions to judges and politicians...
this post was submitted on 07 Dec 2023
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These must be those death panels Republicans warned us of when the Affordable Care Act passed.....
Lawyers making medical decisions instead of patients and doctors.
Good. Now do it for the rest of the women in Texas who want abortions.
Especially, but not exclusively, the ones who need it as well.
Yup
When you have to go to court to get abortion
Yeah, and if someone receives the diagnosis too late then there may not be time to go to court and still perform the procedure before it's too late. This woman was lucky to have lawyers working on her behalf.
Now the Republicans will always point to the few examples such as this one to claim their system is merciful and fair. It's such BS though, as if a judge's opinion on a medical issue matters one bit against those of doctors.
Yeah, and if someone receives the diagnosis too late then there may not be time to go to court and still perform the procedure before it’s too late. This woman was lucky to have lawyers working on her behalf.
And lets be realistic, money.
Bans on abortion, even a nationwide ban, is just a ban on abortion for the poor.
- the rich can fly to another country to get an abortion without even thinking about the time or costs
- the middle class can drain their retirement savings, get a second mortgage, or sell their few valuables to be able to get enough money to fly to another country to get an abortion
The only the poor don't have enough resources to get an abortion, so the poor are forced to give birth. This is the republican dream made real.
While I wish it wasn't necessary to go take these steps, the cost of going to a different country for an abortion are much smaller than you imply.
The total cost to get a surgical abortion in Canada is at most USD 5,000. That includes flight, hotel, the procedure, and going back to Canada for a checkup after 2-3 weeks. That's still a lot of money but not take a second mortgage money.
Depending on the exact clinic and circumstances the total for a surgical could be closer to USD 2,500.
If you notice the pregnancy early and can get a medical abortion the total cost is below USD 1,000 and that includes 3-4 nights in Canada so you don't have to take any medication into the US.
Again having to go through this is bullshit and it is still more money than some can afford. But I don't want anyone reading your comment to think it costs tens of thousands of dollars to get an abortion out of the country.
First, I really appreciate you laying out some actual numbers for people reading this post. I'm glad you're providing this information.
While I wish it wasn’t necessary to go take these steps, the cost of going to a different country for an abortion are much smaller than you imply.
...and...
That’s still a lot of money but not take a second mortgage money.
The middle class itself is a range of incomes and financial situations. Sadly, many in the USA firmly in the middle class would find and extreme struggle to come up with $5k USD unplanned.
56% of Americans can't cover a $1,000 emergency expense with savings
I was trying to drive the point home that the only ones that don't have the option through any means are the poor.
Next up, the state appeals, prolonging the case until this godless harlot has no choice but to birth her already dead child just like the good Lord, our Savior, Republican Jesus, would want it.
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Even worse, seems like the texas AG is threatening to prosecute her or any hospital that participates:
Couldn't the judge hold him in contempt of court for it, though? Not that it'll happen.
A judge can hold anyone in contempt, for any reason, for any length of time. But I think it extremely unlikely here, because usually the judiciary and the prosecution are on the same side.
Requiring trials and lawsuits to determine whether or not you can get a basic medical procedure is called SMALL GOVERNMENT!
How magnanimous to allow someone to do with their body what they choose.
Seems sane.
Until someone sues the mother, the hospital, the doctor, the judge and the state for something something Jesus.
The Texas AG is planning on doing just that.
I'm overwhelmed by the amount of dumb in the world.
Is it weird that I'm shocked that the Texas judge approved her request? That's pretty fucked that this is news, and that I'm shocked that the judge approved her request. That's the state of the world we live in, where this is shocking news.